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 Post subject: Re: Paul Gough
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:37 pm 
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PTID wrote:
Maybe those who are quoting what the Trust say should be more accurate then because there's an earlier post saying that Raj had told the Trust there is no price! So absolutely that story has changed with the inclusion of the word initial.
The rest of my post reflects accurately what the organ grinder (Raj) has said, nobody has come forward to prove interest and the financial clout to fulfil his conditions of sale.


So once again your taking the word of raj. For all you know he could be lying out of his back teeth.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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Surely a loan payment agreement is a price, or is that too difficult a concept to understand. It sounds like buy now pay later, it's not free is it you pay the price but not immediately. So there is a price.
As for those saying you're not driving Singh out he's basically driving himself out, but then saying you want credit when he's gone, why would you get credit if you didn't drive him out, and more importantly what happens if the replacement turns out to be worse, or we do not get a replacement and go pop?


Thats exactly what it is he said that himself. I dont want credit couldnt give a monkeys but if people want to give it they should also take it.


There is no initial price i think greyhound has now mentioned that 10 times and im sure he aint thick so he realises at some point something will need paying similar to the last owners who are still owed money.


Spot on Billy, I listened very closely to the interview on Tees RE : The Trust.
They Stated (the Trust) not ME, That Singh had dropped the Price, And also said the price stopped the takeover happening in the summer.
Now i don,t know if the loans reflect a price or not, But sounds similar as with Sage when Singh took over.

Maybe one or two should take the time to go to radio tees and listen to the interview.

PS: Would not be surprised one bit if Singh decides to put a couple of stumbling blocks in the way.
Maybe just me lost trust.


All(me) will be pleased to know, I,m not going to mention the interview again.


Some are not listening because they dont want to look wrong. We had darlo fans telling us 3 years ago exactly what would happen, he would blame managers he would then blame fans, then make it look like he wants to go but then blames anyone and everyone for it not happening, so far we cannot say they were wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Paul Gough
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I'm simply quoting what the official line from the club is, yes it could be utter suite, unlike a ything you might hear from someone in the pub or from the Trust eh?
Why on earth would he say nobody's met his criteria to buy if they have? And if they have why haven't they outed him for lying?
All the rumours and gossip has come to nothing so far yet any statement made by the club is immediately rubbished.


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 Post subject: Re: Paul Gough
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How long was he actually at Darlo…..the loids problem was George…they left Feethams and somebody had to be the scapegoat when the rats nest of their finances collapsed everything…..
The vast majority of the Darlo fans supported George’s vision and the rest is history…if Raj was going to do something ‘fiendish’ he’s had several years to do it.
Still waiting , but some posters constant efforts to help push us over the cliff will be revealed soon enough.

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 Post subject: Re: Paul Gough
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PTID wrote:
I'm simply quoting what the official line from the club is, yes it could be utter suite, unlike a ything you might hear from someone in the pub or from the Trust eh?
Why on earth would he say nobody's met his criteria to buy if they have? And if they have why haven't they outed him for lying?
All the rumours and gossip has come to nothing so far yet any statement made by the club is immediately rubbished.


Why would you believe raj over someone at the head of the trust? Do you not thing if the trust were lying something would of been said by now? I will repeat once again what the trust said the asking price put the consortium off, that asking price has gone. If thats lies then im sure it will be picked up on very quickly by raj singh.


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My memory is not what it was but when Raj was at Darlo did they get promotion? Did he appoint a really good manager who only left because someone with deeper pockets offered a lot of money for his services? Did did Darlo go on decent cup runs in two competitions in the same season? Or was it all gloom and misery? Can someone remind me? Is Raj doing exactly to Pools what he did at Darlo? I have my doubts but await information by those with greater understanding than my own.


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So has someone met his criteria or not?
Simple question really.


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 Post subject: Re: Paul Gough
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PTID wrote:
So has someone met his criteria or not?
Simple question really.

Obviously not, your not listening the asking price put interested parties off so why would they even bother showing proof of funds at the time.

Things might of changed slightly if he is now desperate to leave in weeks rather than months.


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Sounds like semantics;

Whatever you want to call it its an asking price. Whether thats a million now and free afterwards or free now and 200k for the next five years it amounts to the same. If there's debt to RS's companies then theres an asking price

I once heard someone describe a loss as 'an exciting negative profit line'. I kind of learned my lesson then.


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 Post subject: Re: Paul Gough
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:35 pm 
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How long was he actually at Darlo…..the loids problem was George…they left Feethams and somebody had to be the scapegoat when the rats nest of their finances collapsed everything…..
The vast majority of the Darlo fans supported George’s vision and the rest is history…if Raj was going to do something ‘fiendish’ he’s had several years to do it.
Still waiting , but some posters constant efforts to help push us over the cliff will be revealed soon enough.


Wrong. We had no choice but to go along with Reynolds big idea.
The problem started when the company who bought Reynolds worktop business went under owing half the money he was due and the other half he had spunked on the elephant.
When George Houghton took over the club was financially stable thanks to Stewart Davies. He then transferred the stadium into a separate company meaning the actual football club was virtually worthless.
When he put the club into administration (Singh was his right hand man) there were hardly any assets to make it a viable proposition. Singh then stepped up and took it on.
He could have bought the arena for £1.8m and then pursued potential development of the surrounding land, he wanted Scott & Sizer (whos loan was guaranteed by the stadium) to accept around half of that amount which they rightly turned down.

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
My memory is not what it was but when Raj was at Darlo did they get promotion? Did he appoint a really good manager who only left because someone with deeper pockets offered a lot of money for his services? Did did Darlo go on decent cup runs in two competitions in the same season? Or was it all gloom and misery? Can someone remind me? Is Raj doing exactly to Pools what he did at Darlo? I have my doubts but await information by those with greater understanding than my own.


We won the FA Trophy under Singh but were relegated from the league the previous season, his first full season which was a total disaster. We had 3 managers that season and used a club record number of players, most of whom were dog shite.
He actually had the support of the hard core fans as we could see the mess he had inherited and it appeared he was turning the club around. Even after the Wembley win though he was making noises about crowds not being good enough and how he couldn't keep putting money in but I don't remember any protests about his running of the club. Its the way he put us in administration and his antics afterwards that soured things with him.


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So nobody at this moment in time is in line to buy the club anytime soon. We got there in the end didn't we, and guess what, that's exactly what the official statement said?


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Wrong. We had no choice but to go along with Reynolds big idea.
The problem started when the company who bought Reynolds worktop business went under owing half the money he was due and the other half he had spunked on the elephant.

True ..YOU didn’t….. but most of your fans acted like they going direct to the promised land, they were ecstatic, then after the play off final defeat things started to wobble, I recall with some sympathy the players being paraded as though it was their fault….then it seemed to capsize.
The Elephant was never a practical proposition and ‘Field of Dreams ‘ was just that.
In all seriousness if he’d come here and built it my first concern was it’ll look embarrassing three quarters empty.
I just wish you’d hung on to Feethams.

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PTID wrote:
So nobody at this moment in time is in line to buy the club anytime soon. We got there in the end didn't we, and guess what, that's exactly what the official statement said?


Just like when raj said he has never had an asking price, but he obviously did or once again the trust are lying. And as the trust probobly have to be squeaky clean it seems as though once again a few truths have gone missing along the way. Stop believing everything the official statement says.


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 Post subject: Re: Paul Gough
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loan_star wrote:
Snowy wrote:
How long was he actually at Darlo…..the loids problem was George…they left Feethams and somebody had to be the scapegoat when the rats nest of their finances collapsed everything…..
The vast majority of the Darlo fans supported George’s vision and the rest is history…if Raj was going to do something ‘fiendish’ he’s had several years to do it.
Still waiting , but some posters constant efforts to help push us over the cliff will be revealed soon enough.


Wrong. We had no choice but to go along with Reynolds big idea.
The problem started when the company who bought Reynolds worktop business went under owing half the money he was due and the other half he had spunked on the elephant.
When George Houghton took over the club was financially stable thanks to Stewart Davies. He then transferred the stadium into a separate company meaning the actual football club was virtually worthless.
When he put the club into administration (Singh was his right hand man) there were hardly any assets to make it a viable proposition. Singh then stepped up and took it on.
He could have bought the arena for £1.8m and then pursued potential development of the surrounding land, he wanted Scott & Sizer (whos loan was guaranteed by the stadium) to accept around half of that amount which they rightly turned down.

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
My memory is not what it was but when Raj was at Darlo did they get promotion? Did he appoint a really good manager who only left because someone with deeper pockets offered a lot of money for his services? Did did Darlo go on decent cup runs in two competitions in the same season? Or was it all gloom and misery? Can someone remind me? Is Raj doing exactly to Pools what he did at Darlo? I have my doubts but await information by those with greater understanding than my own.


We won the FA Trophy under Singh but were relegated from the league the previous season, his first full season which was a total disaster. We had 3 managers that season and used a club record number of players, most of whom were dog shite.
He actually had the support of the hard core fans as we could see the mess he had inherited and it appeared he was turning the club around. Even after the Wembley win though he was making noises about crowds not being good enough and how he couldn't keep putting money in but I don't remember any protests about his running of the club. Its the way he put us in administration and his antics afterwards that soured things with him.


3 managers and a club record number of players who were dog shite? Now where have we heard that one before? Put darlo in administration no way we dont want to hear that in this neck of the woods, its all lies


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 Post subject: Re: Paul Gough
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Well aren’t you wanting something similar…the old Kamikaze routine , get rid of Raj and start from the bottom afresh …?

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 Post subject: Re: Paul Gough
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Cease fire time.
Peace brothers.

Can you older gentlemen manage that till Saturday.
Its a big ask.
Maybe a shutdown till Saturday is the
Doin the rite thingy.
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 Post subject: Re: Paul Gough
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We are not Darlo, a club that was financially f*cked before Raj took over, they first went into administration before he took over. We are not in that position.
The only people who want to talk about administration are the small minority who seem to want us to go there.


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PTID wrote:
So has someone met his criteria or not?
Simple question really.


It is a simple ?.

Here,s another one.
What is he,s Criteria.


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 Post subject: Re: Paul Gough
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Cease fire time.
Peace brothers.

Can you older gentlemen manage that till Saturday.
Its a big ask.
Maybe a shutdown till Saturday is the
Doin the rite thingy.
sctatchinghead :lol:
UTP.


I wouldnt like to be the players saturday if they dont turn up and put on a performance.


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I suspect you are looking forward to it.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Cease fire time.
Peace brothers.

Can you older gentlemen manage that till Saturday.
Its a big ask.
Maybe a shutdown till Saturday is the
Doin the rite thingy.
sctatchinghead :lol:
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Agreed….anyway I’m going to Otterburn tonight for a few days and phone/pad not allowed ……. so your timing is perfect …… clappp
Will there be a football match in ‘no man’s land’ during the truce like in WW1…..?

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Don't worry about arguments you didn't make. The Rajettes will straw-man that out of thin air on your behalf.


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Don't worry about arguments you didn't make. The Rajettes will straw-man that out of thin air on your behalf.

I’d be disappointed if they didn’t, ……mind, that’s if they let me come back :shock:
Anyway, I’ve gone.

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Snowy wrote:
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Wrong. We had no choice but to go along with Reynolds big idea.
The problem started when the company who bought Reynolds worktop business went under owing half the money he was due and the other half he had spunked on the elephant.

True ..YOU didn’t….. but most of your fans acted like they going direct to the promised land, they were ecstatic, then after the play off final defeat things started to wobble, I recall with some sympathy the players being paraded as though it was their fault….then it seemed to capsize.
The Elephant was never a practical proposition and ‘Field of Dreams ‘ was just that.
In all seriousness if he’d come here and built it my first concern was it’ll look embarrassing three quarters empty.
I just wish you’d hung on to Feethams.


It was the younger generation that fell for his promises. The rest of us were more than happy where we were.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Cease fire time.
Peace brothers.

Can you older gentlemen manage that till Saturday.
Its a big ask.
Maybe a shutdown till Saturday is the
Doin the rite thingy.
sctatchinghead :lol:
UTP.


I wouldnt like to be the players saturday if they dont turn up and put on a performance.


If they don't turn up again the majority of beer full poolies will stop being patient.
Hopefully we get a shock win tho but its a mega ask.

Have ya noticed the main man running this cabaret show is accusing me n you of wanting us not to win games. sctatchinghead.
He cudent be further from the truth.
No doubt a bit more wordtwistery coming our way.
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I suspect you are looking forward to it.

but it would be more annoying if they did if it was the same team put out as saturday. it would show they could do it if they wanted and the manager can motivate as well.


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Accrington owner has put their club up for sale with asking price 3million, are we worth a lot less being a NL club?

its not the current league positions of both clubs that causes a price to be asked. if there debt is the same as ours i,d say pools are worth more than them. they,d get excited about the number of home fans pools can get when we are rock bottom. they built a new stand basically to cater for away fans to swell their gates making it a 50/50 split. it boils my piss when joke clubs who cannot get fans through the gates get all this financial backing and we get someone either unwilling or unable to do likewise. do not want us to be a new wrexham but somewhere between them and where we are. we have too many who deserve this.


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Preston Poolie wrote:
Accrington owner has put their club up for sale with asking price 3million, are we worth a lot less being a NL club?

its not the current league positions of both clubs that causes a price to be asked. if there debt is the same as ours i,d say pools are worth more than them. they,d get excited about the number of home fans pools can get when we are rock bottom. they built a new stand basically to cater for away fans to swell their gates making it a 50/50 split. it boils my piss when joke clubs who cannot get fans through the gates get all this financial backing and we get someone either unwilling or unable to do likewise. do not want us to be a new wrexham but somewhere between them and where we are. we have too many who deserve this.


Fair point, but when it comes down to it the valuation of anything is based on what the seller hopes to get for their asset and what the market thinks is reasonable - the same principles apply to flogging something on ebay.

Raj is in a weak position at the minute because his asset is underperforming and he wants to cut his losses and be rid of it. That should help a sale - but the club not owning the ground will put off a lot of potential investors. That's a fact however much we as fans are attached to the idea that a private individual or company should never own the Vic.

The other big factor is the real level of debt the club is carrying - which we're not in a position to know at present. But in 2014-15 IOR only wanted £1 to hand over a debt-free club to new owners, and even then the only 'serious' bidders were TMH and Coxberg! That should disabuse every fan of the idea that HUFC as it is in 2023 is an easy sell - but clearly it hasn't.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Cease fire time.
Peace brothers.

Can you older gentlemen manage that till Saturday.
Its a big ask.
Maybe a shutdown till Saturday is the
Doin the rite thingy.
sctatchinghead :lol:
UTP.


I wouldnt like to be the players saturday if they dont turn up and put on a performance.


If they don't turn up again the majority of beer full poolies will stop being patient.
Hopefully we get a shock win tho but its a mega ask.

Have ya noticed the main man running this cabaret show is accusing me n you of wanting us not to win games. sctatchinghead.
He cudent be further from the truth.
No doubt a bit more wordtwistery coming our way.
therethere :lol:


Thought you wanted a cease fire and now you're breaking it. Can't believe a word you say can we.

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Don't think any club is an easy sell, look at how long it took for the Newcastle and Everton takeovers, the Man Utd takeover has been up in the air for what seems like an eternity. And they're clubs where there's a chance of making a profit every year, whereas us???


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Don't think any club is an easy sell, look at how long it took for the Newcastle and Everton takeovers, the Man Utd takeover has been up in the air for what seems like an eternity. And they're clubs where there's a chance of making a profit every year, whereas us???

could be because mansions are harder to sell than a run down terraced house should be. like the terraced house pools should be actually easier to sell with more proper bidders around who,d do a decent job at pools but financially have no chance of a look in at those clubs.


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But who knows how many unseen problems has the rundown house got, is it a potential money maker or money pit?


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derwent wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Cease fire time.
Peace brothers.

Can you older gentlemen manage that till Saturday.
Its a big ask.
Maybe a shutdown till Saturday is the
Doin the rite thingy.
sctatchinghead :lol:
UTP.


I wouldnt like to be the players saturday if they dont turn up and put on a performance.


If they don't turn up again the majority of beer full poolies will stop being patient.
Hopefully we get a shock win tho but its a mega ask.

Have ya noticed the main man running this cabaret show is accusing me n you of wanting us not to win games. sctatchinghead.
He cudent be further from the truth.
No doubt a bit more wordtwistery coming our way.
therethere :lol:


Thought you wanted a cease fire and now you're breaking it. Can't believe a word you say can we.


You know ya luv my humour :lol:
Just every now n again ya luv to play the dominant headmaster role.

Im sure Saturday will be full of lots more variations especially when Snowys back from his Northumberland Orienteering.
Dont tell him ya can get the Bunker on ya Fone. :lol:


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
derwent wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Cease fire time.
Peace brothers.

Can you older gentlemen manage that till Saturday.
Its a big ask.
Maybe a shutdown till Saturday is the
Doin the rite thingy.
sctatchinghead :lol:
UTP.


I wouldnt like to be the players saturday if they dont turn up and put on a performance.


If they don't turn up again the majority of beer full poolies will stop being patient.
Hopefully we get a shock win tho but its a mega ask.

Have ya noticed the main man running this cabaret show is accusing me n you of wanting us not to win games. sctatchinghead.
He cudent be further from the truth.
No doubt a bit more wordtwistery coming our way.
therethere :lol:


Thought you wanted a cease fire and now you're breaking it. Can't believe a word you say can we.


You know ya luv my humour :lol:
Just every now n again ya luv to play the dominant headmaster role.

Im sure Saturday will be full of lots more variations especially when Snowys back from his Northumberland Orienteering.
Dont tell him ya can get the Bunker on ya Fone. :lol:


You're full of shit Kev. That's a fact :laugh:

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We are not Darlo, a club that was financially f*cked before Raj took over, they first went into administration before he took over. We are not in that position.
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Awwwwh....please don't remind us of these times..I beg you!!!


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Cease fire time.
Peace brothers.

Can you older gentlemen manage that till Saturday.
Its a big ask.
Maybe a shutdown till Saturday is the
Doin the rite thingy.
sctatchinghead :lol:
UTP.


I wouldnt like to be the players saturday if they dont turn up and put on a performance.


If they don't turn up again the majority of beer full poolies will stop being patient.
Hopefully we get a shock win tho but its a mega ask.

Have ya noticed the main man running this cabaret show is accusing me n you of wanting us not to win games. sctatchinghead.
He cudent be further from the truth.
No doubt a bit more wordtwistery coming our way.
therethere :lol:


Thats nonsense im afraid i want us to win pre season friendlys. Love us to win at york if not for the fans to give askey a bit of a break, think he needs a result at the minute.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:20 pm 
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derwent wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Cease fire time.
Peace brothers.

Can you older gentlemen manage that till Saturday.
Its a big ask.
Maybe a shutdown till Saturday is the
Doin the rite thingy.
sctatchinghead :lol:
UTP.


I wouldnt like to be the players saturday if they dont turn up and put on a performance.


If they don't turn up again the majority of beer full poolies will stop being patient.
Hopefully we get a shock win tho but its a mega ask.

Have ya noticed the main man running this cabaret show is accusing me n you of wanting us not to win games. sctatchinghead.
He cudent be further from the truth.
No doubt a bit more wordtwistery coming our way.
therethere :lol:


Thought you wanted a cease fire and now you're breaking it. Can't believe a word you say can we.



I thought it was more a humanitarian break to get some supplies in, as opposed to a full on ceasefire! bbolt


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 Post subject: Re: Paul Gough
PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:41 am 
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Kettering Poolie wrote:
derwent wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Cease fire time.
Peace brothers.

Can you older gentlemen manage that till Saturday.
Its a big ask.
Maybe a shutdown till Saturday is the
Doin the rite thingy.
sctatchinghead :lol:
UTP.


I wouldnt like to be the players saturday if they dont turn up and put on a performance.


If they don't turn up again the majority of beer full poolies will stop being patient.
Hopefully we get a shock win tho but its a mega ask.

Have ya noticed the main man running this cabaret show is accusing me n you of wanting us not to win games. sctatchinghead.
He cudent be further from the truth.
No doubt a bit more wordtwistery coming our way.
therethere :lol:


Thought you wanted a cease fire and now you're breaking it. Can't believe a word you say can we.



I thought it was more a humanitarian break to get some supplies in, as opposed to a full on ceasefire! bbolt


You never know with Kev.

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