Because I told you to.

I guess it is one sided, the fact is we lost both games away by 3 goals, something we just dont seem to be able to sort out. The gateshead game was ppossibly up their with one of the luckiest wins we have had, but pools dont get much luck so id take it anytime. Injuries did kill the team no question, but not team should dissintegratge like we have since.

He doesnt know whether he is coming or going. The story keeps changing with raj. From no interest to oh wrexham was first choice but yeah we were in talks too. Enjoy the ride. Many think one day it will all end in tears, dont know about anyone else but id love the chance to find out while you win games in front of sell outs each week. Yet a lot of our fans are quite happy as we plummet from one disaster to another.

Nope - we lost by 1 goal in both games (but conceded 3).

its a good job we see all games differently. actually thought gateshead looked clueless even breaking down our defence with one player more. if any team was going to score it was going to be us. if thats the luckiest we can ever get then surely we are doomed for life.

Ah. You're one of those. What a great come back. *Slow clap

Exactly.
Its only the uneducated and ignorant who say "it'll end in tears" as if they've got a crystal ball in front of them. There's little point in trying to educate them as its usually an impossible and pointless task. Reality is that any clubs current ownership 'could end in tears' for a multitude of reasons.

A lot of our fans claimed they were 'happy' being fan owned, and that it was the only way, despite the glaring major issues facing us, like having no money and the Wrexham supporters trust being more toxic and pissed on their own importance than you can ever imagine. They turned into the owners from hell.

In the end only 31 'fans' voted against the takeover despite it being highly likely the club would fold if the takeover didn't happen. And those poor fools called themselves fans. Where are they now? Still coming the games.

Covid had hit and the trust had driven away most fans and the majority had stopped their financial support due to their years of lies and underhand/borderline illegal tactics to stay in power.

Without major £ its almost impossible to get out of the National League these days. We almost did it a few times but always fell short. The National league gets stronger and stronger in my opinion. There aren't any push overs any more and as a bigger club you are everyone's cup final. You're one takeover away at another NL club to finishing in the play offs.

Thank you, you answered my question unintentionally…you’d rather have an owner rather than a fans run phoenix club ?
But it does end…ours did with our Norwegian owners, they move on, but if you take advantage while they are there you stand a good chance.

I try to please, you’re lucky….. as a virgin poster that you never got the traditional Poolie welcome.

I guess because it clearly says they had decided on Wrexham before considering other clubs and if they'd wanted to buy Hartlepool the £500k initial ask wouldn't have put them off.

As Snowy says, you got the Sugar Daddies so enjoy their input

That’s true, the bit about any club ending tears bit that is…BUT…. have you ever had a sugar daddy before….it’s great while it lasts, but the let down when they’ve gone is palpable..we had our sugar daddy, Darlington had the King of sugar daddies…a 27,000 stadium with a grand piano in the foyer and ‘hesklatylors’ as he described them….and it ended abruptly….it ain’t for life..

The thing is even if it ends in tears they will of had a bloody good go, they will go into most games now with a buzz and swagger about them, when it ends like everything does maybe someone just as good will come along for wrexham.

Best of luck enjoy the rollercoaster.

I thought they played some great football, might of ran out of ideas but their form after that game certainly picked up. Probobly have a dip now their manager has gone.

You cant point to the Raj statement as fact unless its corroborated, Snowy will tell you about corroborating evidence.

Speaking of which Snowy, who says those wishing for Raj to sell WANT there to be a phoenix club? The two are NOT intertwined. Has somebody said that they desire both of these outcomes? You and others see a Raj exit as introducing risk to the clubs existence. True of course but it depends on the manner of the leaving. If it is as he says and he'll do what he reasonably can to move the club into another set of safe hands (I think he means it by the way) then great. If he doesn't, nowt we could do would stop him pulling the plug next week next year or whenever.

Don't see Raj going as being the end of the club unless he goes and takes what's his leaving us as a non viable business and unable to fulfil our fixtures or service our debt. That scenario is the end, and some are saying that we should just do that sooner rather than later.
The ideal scenario is Raj goes soon leaving us financially stable with a new owner who has cash and the clubs best interests at heart.

Corroboration is vital, I like to hear things from the horses mouth or a statement of intent…otherwise it’s speculation.
As for the Phoenix club debate, if some people intertwine the possibility with wording that can safely be construed as implying that, it can then safely be assumed that is their intent and the posts are there to support this.

I hope he does transfer the club to a responsible owner as we seem to be at an impasse, but for now he’s the only lifeboat on an empty ocean, a leaking lifeboat with woodworm and no rations or water available…the survivors sit there out of necessity not choice…for now anyway.
If he pulls the plug …..?…. then it’s time for desperate measures and we don’t have a choice as it’s sink or swim…something frankly I’d rather avoid as long as possible, again out of necessity not choice….we’re all being held to ransom effectively.

"As for the Phoenix club debate, if some people intertwine the possibility with wording that can safely be construed as implying that, it can then safely be assumed that is their intent and the posts are there to support this."

Let us know if this ever happens. In English preferably.

Second paragraph =well said.

I slipped into work mode there, Groucho Marx was my English Teacher.

Without making this too complicated, what Raj did at Darlo was create a situation where he was the main creditor, and then decided that he would not sign a CVA and expunged the club, so he could make a few more quid by holding on to the Dan Burn transfer clauses.

When the club was in administration and with an offer on the table in the last 24 hours, he literally refused to answer his phone to the local MP, the consortium, or the fans group trying to buy the club.

So Raj will do what Raj is gonna do. But it won’t be anything that suits anyone else but his own interests.


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having read the article -
I hadn't realised that Raj also owned Hartlepool FC as well as Pools!

To be fair to the Sugar Daddy 2 -
No doubt after a feasibility report, even they found the amount of investment, time and money required to improve Greyfields Enclosure, up to League Standard too much for their very deep pockets to cope with. Surprised they didn't try and buy Pools instead!