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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:47 am 
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Anybody watch that tonight?, a 21 year old serial burglar, with 46 previous convictions creating a one man crimewave across Norfolk and Suffolk, admitted to 13 burglaries at mainly elderly peoples homes, after lots of hard work by umpteen officers and eventually gets sent down for a paltry 2 years and 4 months, what a waste of time.
Probably be out after 18 months.... what a joke.

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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Anybody watch that tonight?, a 21 year old serial burglar, with 46 previous convictions creating a one man crimewave across Norfolk and Suffolk, admitted to 13 burglaries at mainly elderly peoples homes, after lots of hard work by umpteen officers and eventually gets sent down for a paltry 2 years and 4 months, what a waste of time.
Probably be out after 18 months.... what a joke.

Saw one where a teenager in Brighton with a De Walt grinder was blatantly cutting the locks off bikes with two ‘mates’ on a sunny summer’s day in a busy Main Street… two blokes charged in and two of them scattered but they collared the one with the grinder and called the police… but while waiting a small crowd gathered and a surprising number of them were saying let him go he’s probably doing it to buy food etc and making him a victim.
He was dressed in designer gear from head to toe, arrogant as hell and probably never got the expensive grinder for his birthday :roll:
I think that’s why we have this problem, because too many people with that gormless attitude are making laws and punishments that reflect their do gooder values.

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 Post subject: Re: Suspect No.1
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It seems 90% of the people arrested on these sort of programmes are either released as the CPS decided there wasn't enough evidence or get suspended sentences.


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the victim nowadays seems like the housebreaker themselves because the person living in the house made it easy for them to break in. i,d hate to knock one down the stairs injuring em badly or the dog had a good old bite to be relaxed as i might end up in jail or the dog put down.


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elwood wrote:
It seems 90% of the people arrested on these sort of programmes are either released as the CPS decided there wasn't enough evidence or get suspended sentences.

suspended sentance means to me being let off. crimes now do not go on your record for life and are like motoring offences that after a few years are taken off.


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 Post subject: Re: Suspect No.1
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:14 am 
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Started watching "The Detectives" last night.
BBC 1 or IPlayer

The laws in this country are pathetic.
Watch it and you will be disgusted at the way the police,s hands are tied.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
Started watching "The Detectives" last night.
BBC 1 or IPlayer

The laws in this country are pathetic.
Watch it and you will be disgusted at the way the police,s hands are tied.

its a bit of a vicious circle. police hands are tied yet do the general public actually trust our present police force in every single way. that includes them doing their jobs correctly in catching criminals, making you the criminal or fitting you up for something. thats all before the cps gets involved.


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elwood wrote:
It seems 90% of the people arrested on these sort of programmes are either released as the CPS decided there wasn't enough evidence or get suspended sentences.


Magistrates and Judges have been advised to try and not to impose prison sentences as the prisons are full, seriously !


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Jamie1952 wrote:
elwood wrote:
It seems 90% of the people arrested on these sort of programmes are either released as the CPS decided there wasn't enough evidence or get suspended sentences.


Magistrates and Judges have been advised to try and not to impose prison sentences as the prisons are full, seriously !

and if they are sent there its all about rehab of them more than punishment and making sure they do not want to be banged up again. that does not work on both scores with the number of offenders who repeat crimes. all the stats that go out about the chances of being caught being low is another encouragement to give it a go themselves.


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 Post subject: Re: Suspect No.1
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accrington fan wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
elwood wrote:
It seems 90% of the people arrested on these sort of programmes are either released as the CPS decided there wasn't enough evidence or get suspended sentences.


Magistrates and Judges have been advised to try and not to impose prison sentences as the prisons are full, seriously !

and if they are sent there its all about rehab of them more than punishment and making sure they do not want to be banged up again. that does not work on both scores with the number of offenders who repeat crimes. all the stats that go out about the chances of being caught being low is another encouragement to give it a go themselves.

I remember seeing the police in Germany, where if there was a sign saying’ NO BALL GAMES’ they meant it and regular patrols would collar you and fine you.
Best of all was a playground outside the wife’s sister’s house, with three separate areas for each age. The police passed it regularly and any kid in the wrong one was taken home and the parents fined.
Asking about the police there I was told they aren’t the sort you can ask the time of.
I suspect respecting the law starts at the bottom, in this country our pathetic laws are made by liberals in gated communities…..

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 Post subject: Re: Suspect No.1
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Jamie1952 wrote:
elwood wrote:
It seems 90% of the people arrested on these sort of programmes are either released as the CPS decided there wasn't enough evidence or get suspended sentences.


Magistrates and Judges have been advised to try and not to impose prison sentences as the prisons are full, seriously !


True. The prison system is at 93% capacity and the privatised prison officer service can't cope as it is - as the recent piss-easy escape from Wandsworth by a dangerous criminal made clear.

As we're into an election year we can expect extravagant promises about being 'tough on crime' from the Tories and Starmer's Labour Party too, but it's all horse manure. This country's key services and utilities are broken and it will take a decade's hard work to begin to fix them. No use moaning about burglars and petty thieves getting soft sentences when there's hardly enough room to house the murderers, rapists and other violent criminals.


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To some people prison becomes home from home, bed to sleep in every night and 3 meals a day, others get ‘educated’ whilst in prison.


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 Post subject: Re: Suspect No.1
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What about those 2 Met officers sacked last week for lying over a stop and search of 2 black athletes (woman represented GB in Olympics). There is a gofundme page which has "raised" over £130,00 for these toe rags.


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 Post subject: Re: Suspect No.1
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Last nights Detectives where the CPS said there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute was a load of bollocks.

They were too scared that these OCG's would come after them!


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 Post subject: Re: Suspect No.1
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Critical Thinking wrote:
What about those 2 Met officers sacked last week for lying over a stop and search of 2 black athletes (woman represented GB in Olympics). There is a gofundme page which has "raised" over £130,00 for these toe rags.


Just wondering if you have considered there might be more than one side to this story. Just saying. I guess the money raised will be for the families of the sacked officers. Regardless of the ins and outs of the case, the families dont deserve to be punished.


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 Post subject: Re: Suspect No.1
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Yes well considered it and this happened a couple of years back and there has been more than sufficient evidence with body worn cameras to find them guilty. As for their families you are right that they don't deserve a lying bastard of a father.

By the way most of this money raised came from "fellow" officers. Yes the Met full of corrupt and unethical police which is well documented and confirmed by the top people.


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 Post subject: Re: Suspect No.1
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I’d hate to be a copper thesedays. What a thankless job.


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Critical Thinking wrote:
Yes well considered it and this happened a couple of years back and there has been more than sufficient evidence with body worn cameras to find them guilty. As for their families you are right that they don't deserve a lying bastard of a father.

By the way most of this money raised came from "fellow" officers. Yes the Met full of corrupt and unethical police which is well documented and confirmed by the top people.

The original cause of this was the driving which alerted the police pursuit in the first place …was any action taken on that….? It would appear not.

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No you are wrong Snowy. The reason they were stopped is because they saw a youngish black man driving a very posh Mercedes. These lying coppers used the "erractic" driving as their reason for stopping the car.


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Critical Thinking wrote:
No you are wrong Snowy. The reason they were stopped is because they saw a youngish black man driving a very posh Mercedes. These lying coppers used the "erractic" driving as their reason for stopping the car.


The Mercedes had tinted windows so the police could not know who was driving. Allegedly, the vehicle was being driven erratically so the Police signalled it to stop. If the driver (Dos Santos) had stopped when signalled to do so, the issue would have been quickly resolved but no. Dos Santos stopped when he felt like it and then he and his partner behaved in an aggressive and confrontational manner so ended up being handcuffed. This does not get mentioned as the mainstream media focus on two coppers who lied about smelling cannabis. Funny how the the people most responsible for this incident walk away without consequence. If the coppers signal a motorist to stop, I suspect all none criminals will stop so those who do not comply are most likely to raise suspicions in the minds of the pursuing officers.


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Just lets say I know the correct details as a close relative is an Inspector in the Met.

By the way the windows were NOT tinted - nuff said.


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Critical Thinking wrote:
Just lets say I know the correct details as a close relative is an Inspector in the Met.

By the way the windows were NOT tinted - nuff said.


Perhaps your close relative can let you in on the secret as to why Dos Santos and partner were not charged with anything?


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Because they didn't do anything.

End of discussion my end now.


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Oh right, so failing to stop when told by the police to do so is no longer an offence? Or only if you are a known race grifter like Dos Santos? The whole thing stinks to high heaven. All about appeasing a minority.


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No you are wrong Snowy. The reason they were stopped is because they saw a youngish black man driving a very posh Mercedes. These lying coppers used the "erractic" driving as their reason for stopping the car.


Whoa, young black men driving nice cars in London are not a rare sight.
Any racist copper stopping young black men in nice cars in London would be a very busy man.
I’m only going by news reports of the incident, the truth is usually somewhere down the middle.

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Oh right, so failing to stop when told by the police to do so is no longer an offence? Or only if you are a known race grifter like Dos Santos? The whole thing stinks to high heaven. All about appeasing a minority.

our life now just resolves around appeasing every single minority in the country for every single reason. the vast majority can just do one as far as every one in power feels and that seems to include the police. if there was a list of priorities in crime i,d love to see that list to see what position of importance some get.


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Critical Thinking wrote:
Last nights Detectives where the CPS said there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute was a load of bollocks.

They were too scared that these OCG's would come after them!



This is what happened to the lad who was attacked with an axe.

https://wepublishnews.com/news/cameron- ... ned-to-him


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accrington fan wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Oh right, so failing to stop when told by the police to do so is no longer an offence? Or only if you are a known race grifter like Dos Santos? The whole thing stinks to high heaven. All about appeasing a minority.

our life now just resolves around appeasing every single minority in the country for every single reason. the vast majority can just do one as far as every one in power feels and that seems to include the police. if there was a list of priorities in crime i,d love to see that list to see what position of importance some get.


The Police are walking on eggshells in the U.K., stop a black person or some one of a different religion and there is hell to play.
It makes me laugh when politicians say the U.K. is a welcoming country and every one integrates, couldn’t be further from the truth.


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The Police are walking on eggshells in the U.K., stop a black person or some one of a different religion and there is hell to play.
It makes me laugh when politicians say the U.K. is a welcoming country and every one integrates, couldn’t be further from the truth.

firstly its a joke when the police are getting stick from mainly the black community about stop and search. if there is a report of a black 20 year old carrying a knife or has stolen some watches its pointless stopping anyone but a black person around that age. politicians have no clue whatsoever about integration. you would not if you lived in a small leafy villiage where the only non white seen is the local GP or a shop owner if that. in large immegrant communities its the fault of no one as nobody are really interested in integration from either side. just being civil is the best people can do or want to do.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Oh right, so failing to stop when told by the police to do so is no longer an offence? Or only if you are a known race grifter like Dos Santos? The whole thing stinks to high heaven. All about appeasing a minority.

our life now just resolves around appeasing every single minority in the country for every single reason. the vast majority can just do one as far as every one in power feels and that seems to include the police. if there was a list of priorities in crime i,d love to see that list to see what position of importance some get.


The Police are walking on eggshells in the U.K., stop a black person or some one of a different religion and there is hell to play.
It makes me laugh when politicians say the U.K. is a welcoming country and every one integrates, couldn’t be further from the truth.

I thought the idea of emigrating to another country was to integrate into the culture, no good trying to recreate what you left behind and expecting the host nation to change to accommodate you.

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Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Oh right, so failing to stop when told by the police to do so is no longer an offence? Or only if you are a known race grifter like Dos Santos? The whole thing stinks to high heaven. All about appeasing a minority.

our life now just resolves around appeasing every single minority in the country for every single reason. the vast majority can just do one as far as every one in power feels and that seems to include the police. if there was a list of priorities in crime i,d love to see that list to see what position of importance some get.


The Police are walking on eggshells in the U.K., stop a black person or some one of a different religion and there is hell to play.
It makes me laugh when politicians say the U.K. is a welcoming country and every one integrates, couldn’t be further from the truth.

I thought the idea of emigrating to another country was to integrate into the culture, no good trying to recreate what you left behind and expecting the host nation to change to accommodate you.


No different in years gone by when the Brits ‘invaded’ Spain, did they integrate, nope British pubs, English breakfasts and Carling lager, we don’t integrate so we can’t complain about foreigners in the U.K. not integrating can we ?


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Oh right, so failing to stop when told by the police to do so is no longer an offence? Or only if you are a known race grifter like Dos Santos? The whole thing stinks to high heaven. All about appeasing a minority.

our life now just resolves around appeasing every single minority in the country for every single reason. the vast majority can just do one as far as every one in power feels and that seems to include the police. if there was a list of priorities in crime i,d love to see that list to see what position of importance some get.


The Police are walking on eggshells in the U.K., stop a black person or some one of a different religion and there is hell to play.
It makes me laugh when politicians say the U.K. is a welcoming country and every one integrates, couldn’t be further from the truth.

I thought the idea of emigrating to another country was to integrate into the culture, no good trying to recreate what you left behind and expecting the host nation to change to accommodate you.


No different in years gone by when the Brits ‘invaded’ Spain, did they integrate, nope British pubs, English breakfasts and Carling lager, we don’t integrate so we can’t complain about foreigners in the U.K. not integrating can we ?

Er, yes we can can…if people want to go and live in Spain, (rather them than me)….but Uk pensioners in the sun don’t expect the Spanish to bow down to them and adapt to their arrival in their country..they’re guests and they know it.

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Snowy wrote:
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No different in years gone by when the Brits ‘invaded’ Spain, did they integrate, nope British pubs, English breakfasts and Carling lager, we don’t integrate so we can’t complain about foreigners in the U.K. not integrating can we ?

Er, yes we can can…if people want to go and live in Spain, (rather them than me)….but Uk pensioners in the sun don’t expect the Spanish to bow down to them and adapt to their arrival in their country..they’re guests and they know it.

think holiday makers and people residing there are two different animals. possibly at one time those holidaying in spain would have gone somewhere like blackpool and really require a blackpool in the sun situated in spain. imagine brits residing in a non english speeking country will learn the language and that includes the women out there unlike many women of certain heritage in this country. if brits living in spain do have there own communities then who can really blame them. its something i have never knocked immegrants to this country for. hear a north east accent away from the north east at work and there is a good chance you,ll end up together as mates. called human nature and nothing else.


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