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 Post subject: Pools player charged with rape
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:13 am 
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The name is in the public domain which is surely wrong until or if, convicted.


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Standard isn't it, the alleged rapist is usually named after being charged the alleged victim remains anonymous throughout even if it turns out to be a malicious hoax.
I'd expect a statement from the club today announcing his being unavailable pending the outcome of his trial, bit surprised he wasn't suspended whilst under investigation.


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Well, that's another midfielder gone then. On a positive note though, this will free up a salary for another player.


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 Post subject: Re: Pools player charged with rape
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Club have confirmed he's been suspended.


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PTID wrote:
Standard isn't it, the alleged rapist is usually named after being charged the alleged victim remains anonymous throughout even if it turns out to be a malicious hoax.
I'd expect a statement from the club today announcing his being unavailable pending the outcome of his trial, bit surprised he wasn't suspended whilst under investigation.


It is unjust, as mud always sticks even if the charges are eventually dropped or the man accused gets a full acquittal. On your second point, not sure if someone who is cautioned pending further investigation is obliged to tell their employer? It all goes public when charges are made.


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 Post subject: Re: Pools player charged with rape
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Just been announced as soon as club found out he was suspended.
Ched Evans, Adam Johnson, Greenwood cases all resulted in suspensions during investigation rather than after formal charges being raised. Obviously their clubs knew earlier on in the proceedings than Pools did.


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well the lass will be safe as our players only fire blanks. surprised they had the energy in the first place.


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accrington fan wrote:
well the lass will be safe as our players only fire blanks. surprised they had the energy in the first place.


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 Post subject: Re: Pools player charged with rape
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Just been announced as soon as club found out he was suspended.
Ched Evans, Adam Johnson, Greenwood cases all resulted in suspensions during investigation rather than after formal charges being raised. Obviously their clubs knew earlier on in the proceedings than Pools did.

Wouldn’t the player have informed their employer immediately..?

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 Post subject: Re: Pools player charged with rape
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Surely this "happened" whilst he was attached to Crewe and he could have told them. Whether we got to learn might be another question.


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 Post subject: Re: Pools player charged with rape
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Surely this "happened" whilst he was attached to Crewe and he could have told them. Whether we got to learn might be another question.

crewe again.there must be something in the water at that place where sexual offences are concerned.


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 Post subject: Re: Pools player charged with rape
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Well, that's another midfielder gone then. On a positive note though, this will free up a salary for another player.


If he is suspended on no pay, innocent till proved guilty so I suspect he will be getting paid.
Irrespective of the outcome it will finish is career as a footballer one way or another, opposition fans would see to that.


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Think his recent performances have finished his career anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Pools player charged with rape
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I thought Ched Evans was now playing at Preston.


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 Post subject: Re: Pools player charged with rape
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If he is suspended on no pay, innocent till proved guilty so I suspect he will be getting paid.
Irrespective of the outcome it will finish is career as a footballer one way or another, opposition fans would see to that.

funny how football fans suddenly take the moral high ground where players, especially from other teams are concerned. if it was in any other walk of life it would be a case of doing the crime, doing your time and be allowed to pick up your life again. thats though if the crime committed could have an impact on those types the crime was committed against like a schoolteacher guilty of child sex offences.


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Confirmed on the BBC, occurred before he signed for Pools, as usual why has it taken so long for a complaint ?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tees-67231192


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Confirmed on the BBC, occurred before he signed for Pools, as usual why has it taken so long for a complaint ?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tees-67231192

The Law will pursue it’s winding course

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 Post subject: Re: Pools player charged with rape
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You say that Snowy and that's right in the case of those Met Police Officers who were sacked this week for lying over the arrest of 2 black athletes some 3/4 years ago.

Some "arsehole" has launched a funding page for them which in a short few days has raised over £50000.


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Think we'll get Adam Johnson to replace him :doh: bbolt


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 Post subject: Re: Pools player charged with rape
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Confirmed on the BBC, occurred before he signed for Pools, as usual why has it taken so long for a complaint ?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tees-67231192

Just wonder when the claim was actually made, was it before he signed for us or was it just recent.

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 Post subject: Re: Pools player charged with rape
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Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Confirmed on the BBC, occurred before he signed for Pools, as usual why has it taken so long for a complaint ?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tees-67231192

Just wonder when the claim was actually made, was it before he signed for us or was it just recent.


None of the reports say when in 2022 the incident allegedly happened, or was reported, but it hadn't come to light in January this year when Curle signed him. According to a report in the Daily Mirror today his contract is set to run till June 2025 :? A terrible piece of business even before today's shocker.


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Flying Hogans wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Confirmed on the BBC, occurred before he signed for Pools, as usual why has it taken so long for a complaint ?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tees-67231192

Just wonder when the claim was actually made, was it before he signed for us or was it just recent.


None of the reports say when in 2022 the incident allegedly happened, or was reported, but it hadn't come to light in January this year when Curle signed him. According to a report in the Daily Mirror today his contract is set to run till June 2025 :? A terrible piece of business even before today's shocker.

Would the contract in such circumstances be valid?

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Think we'll get Adam Johnson to replace him :doh: bbolt

You little tinker :naughty:

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 Post subject: Re: Pools player charged with rape
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He's finished at Pools- guilty or not.

Don't agree with people being named in the press before being proven guilty.
Article I read said it happened pre Xmas in December, whilst he was still a Crewe player.
If that's the case then given we signed him in January - very unlikely Pools could have had any way of knowing about anything untoward.

Would also explain why he was keen to leave the North West and sign for us.
Should he be found guilty - would have thought Pools would be able to rip his contract up, regardless. Though will have to pay him whilst he's on trial. That said given the state of the legal system could be on gardening leave until the end of his contract anyway.


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accrington fan wrote:
well the lass will be safe as our players only fire blanks. surprised they had the energy in the first place.


Bad taste, And i hate woke.


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ZNB12 wrote:
Well, that's another midfielder gone then. On a positive note though, this will free up a salary for another player.


How do u know that like. sctatchinghead


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Flying Hogans wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Confirmed on the BBC, occurred before he signed for Pools, as usual why has it taken so long for a complaint ?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tees-67231192

Just wonder when the claim was actually made, was it before he signed for us or was it just recent.


None of the reports say when in 2022 the incident allegedly happened, or was reported, but it hadn't come to light in January this year when Curle signed him. According to a report in the Daily Mirror today his contract is set to run till June 2025 :? A terrible piece of business even before today's shocker.


If proven his Contract will be Null and Void.


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Snowy wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Confirmed on the BBC, occurred before he signed for Pools, as usual why has it taken so long for a complaint ?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tees-67231192

Just wonder when the claim was actually made, was it before he signed for us or was it just recent.


None of the reports say when in 2022 the incident allegedly happened, or was reported, but it hadn't come to light in January this year when Curle signed him. According to a report in the Daily Mirror today his contract is set to run till June 2025 :? A terrible piece of business even before today's shocker.

Would the contract in such circumstances be valid?


No it would not.


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Snowy wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Think we'll get Adam Johnson to replace him :doh: bbolt

You little tinker :naughty:


Keyboard warriors wont allow it.
Remember when Ronnie wanted Ched.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Think we'll get Adam Johnson to replace him :doh: bbolt

You little tinker :naughty:


Keyboard warriors wont allow it.
Remember when Ronnie wanted Ched.


He's not doing to bad for himself these days at Preston.


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 Post subject: Re: Pools player charged with rape
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Well, that's another midfielder gone then. On a positive note though, this will free up a salary for another player.


How do u know that like. sctatchinghead


Because, Raj doesn't like fans calling him out, it's bad business and bad for an image of potential investments. So somehow I can't see Raj putting up with the public out cry that Pools have a potential criminal on the books... Guilty until proven innocent in this modern world.


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ZNB12 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Well, that's another midfielder gone then. On a positive note though, this will free up a salary for another player.


How do u know that like. sctatchinghead


Because, Raj doesn't like fans calling him out, it's bad business and bad for an image of potential investments. So somehow I can't see Raj putting up with the public out cry that Pools have a potential criminal on the books... Guilty until proven innocent in this modern world.


Eh.
I meant how do ya know anutha player will join us.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Well, that's another midfielder gone then. On a positive note though, this will free up a salary for another player.


How do u know that like. sctatchinghead


Because, Raj doesn't like fans calling him out, it's bad business and bad for an image of potential investments. So somehow I can't see Raj putting up with the public out cry that Pools have a potential criminal on the books... Guilty until proven innocent in this modern world.


Eh.
I meant how do ya know anutha player will join us.


Sorry my apologies KPG, I misunderstood.
Well... I don't. However, if Featherstone leaves after Saturday and now Finney suspended. Askey is going to have to look at a loan or short term contract. Unless he's going to play the youth, which I'm all fore for the youth to get a chance.
Can't do any worse....


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Well, that's another midfielder gone then. On a positive note though, this will free up a salary for another player.


How do u know that like. sctatchinghead


Because, Raj doesn't like fans calling him out, it's bad business and bad for an image of potential investments. So somehow I can't see Raj putting up with the public out cry that Pools have a potential criminal on the books... Guilty until proven innocent in this modern world.


Eh.
I meant how do ya know anutha player will join us.

If you pay them enough, they have no scruples, I’m cynical now about all footballers.

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ZNB12 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Well, that's another midfielder gone then. On a positive note though, this will free up a salary for another player.


How do u know that like. sctatchinghead


Because, Raj doesn't like fans calling him out, it's bad business and bad for an image of potential investments. So somehow I can't see Raj putting up with the public out cry that Pools have a potential criminal on the books... Guilty until proven innocent in this modern world.


Eh.
I meant how do ya know anutha player will join us.


Sorry my apologies KPG, I misunderstood.
Well... I don't. However, if Featherstone leaves after Saturday and now Finney suspended. Askey is going to have to look at a loan or short term contract. Unless he's going to play the youth, which I'm all fore for the youth to get a chance.
Can't do any worse....


Id also go down the youth option.
If they can't get a chance now then when will they.


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ZNB12 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Think we'll get Adam Johnson to replace him :doh: bbolt

You little tinker :naughty:


Keyboard warriors wont allow it.
Remember when Ronnie wanted Ched.


He's not doing to bad for himself these days at Preston.

Could of got him on the cheap n sold him for big bucks. :lol:
Can remember when Oldham signed him and then they had to shelve it when about 100,000 people signed an online petition to cancel the move.
Troll bastads.
Looks like he could be in the Premier next season.


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accrington fan wrote:
well the lass will be safe as our players only fire blanks. surprised they had the energy in the first place.


:roll:


Sure it was him who scored our goal of the season so far with that 25yarder rocket shot in August.

Will we have to choose anutha goal!


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Think we'll get Adam Johnson to replace him :doh: bbolt

You little tinker :naughty:


Keyboard warriors wont allow it.
Remember when Ronnie wanted Ched.


He's not doing to bad for himself these days at Preston.

Could of got him on the cheap n sold him for big bucks. :lol:
Can remember when Oldham signed him and then they had to shelve it when about 100,000 people signed an online petition to cancel the move.
Troll bastads.
Looks like he could be in the Premier next season.

Some people have standards, some don’t .
We can see which category you’re in ….. :roll:

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The same as Prestons.
Ambitious category.
Are all there fans not very nice.
Looking good for a chance of Premier League next season.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Think we'll get Adam Johnson to replace him :doh: bbolt

You little tinker :naughty:


Keyboard warriors wont allow it.
Remember when Ronnie wanted Ched.


He's not doing to bad for himself these days at Preston.

Could of got him on the cheap n sold him for big bucks. :lol:
Can remember when Oldham signed him and then they had to shelve it when about 100,000 people signed an online petition to cancel the move.
Troll bastads.
Looks like he could be in the Premier next season.

really 100,000. it would be hard to find that number who have that amount of interest in oldham athletic if it was about another subject. funny how lee hughes who was jailed for killing someone by being pissed driving seemed to play for years in non league on his release without that. makes me wonder if rape is seen a bigger crime than actually taking a life. both are bad but i know which one i,d take if i ever had to suffer one or the other.


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 Post subject: Re: Pools player charged with rape
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ZNB12 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Well, that's another midfielder gone then. On a positive note though, this will free up a salary for another player.


How do u know that like. sctatchinghead


Because, Raj doesn't like fans calling him out, it's bad business and bad for an image of potential investments. So somehow I can't see Raj putting up with the public out cry that Pools have a potential criminal on the books... Guilty until proven innocent in this modern world.

thats the problem now and if proved innocent there will be some saying about no smoke without fire.


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