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 Post subject: Re: How are Solihull better than us???
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:03 am 
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We've been poorly run. Thats why we are under achieving for our size and keep getting humiliatedby pub teams. Stop scrabbling around for excuses folks.


Do you know that it would be irony personified if you ended up in one of Raj's care homes. preferably in a three bedded room with yer two mates.
It could be called the three broom doom room. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: How are Solihull better than us???
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:33 am 
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He did use the F word but didn't really provide any.

Neither do you….. :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: How are Solihull better than us???
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:21 pm 
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None of us know the facts to be honest. Statements like poorly run, Raj needs to loosen the purse strings etc are simply opinions. How do we know how much running the club costs or how much the budgets are. How much are we still paying to the 3 permanent managers we had last season, how much to players who have been and gone, how much any of our players are on, etc etc. Yet some demand Raj leaves, or he spends more of HIS money, even though none of us know if JA has even asked for more.
We need to accept the reality of where we are, a club with no sugar daddy, with a squad still including past manager mistakes, and ravaged by injuries to key players. We won't struggle at the bottom end of the division and may even scrape the play offs, but we need to get behind the manager and stabilise things on the field and eventually get shit of the deadwood to allow better players to come in. It won't happen overnight, and even with massive investment wouldn't (look how long Man City took to become the best team in the PL and how many managers did they go through before Pep arrived).
This demand for instant success isn't ambition it's fantasy, similarly acceptance that it'll take time to turn things around isn't lack of ambition it's reality.


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 Post subject: Re: How are Solihull better than us???
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:45 pm 
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None of us know the facts to be honest. Statements like poorly run, Raj needs to loosen the purse strings etc are simply opinions. How do we know how much running the club costs or how much the budgets are. How much are we still paying to the 3 permanent managers we had last season, how much to players who have been and gone, how much any of our players are on, etc etc. Yet some demand Raj leaves, or he spends more of HIS money, even though none of us know if JA has even asked for more.
We need to accept the reality of where we are, a club with no sugar daddy, with a squad still including past manager mistakes, and ravaged by injuries to key players. We won't struggle at the bottom end of the division and may even scrape the play offs, but we need to get behind the manager and stabilise things on the field and eventually get shit of the deadwood to allow better players to come in. It won't happen overnight, and even with massive investment wouldn't (look how long Man City took to become the best team in the PL and how many managers did they go through before Pep arrived).
This demand for instant success isn't ambition it's fantasy, similarly acceptance that it'll take time to turn things around isn't lack of ambition it's reality.


Just about sums it up nicely, expectation overrides common sense and common sense is seen as lack of ambition.
Unless someone has access to all the financial facts they are in no position to speculate, fantasise or assume because they don’t have the facts to feed their obsession.
Our early season success was greeted cautiously and briefly by some, yet after the Chesterfield defeat which was nearly a draw, their floodgates opened full flow, it’s so predictable you can set your watch by it, even the tide table’s not that good.
It looks like Raj will never be forgiven for letting DC go and must bear the blame for all subsequent events, but he was never staying here after Stockport came a courting with a far bigger treasure chest to dig into….
I really hope the passing multi millionaire turns up one day, but I won’t hold my breath. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: How are Solihull better than us???
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:55 pm 
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PTID wrote:
None of us know the facts to be honest. Statements like poorly run, Raj needs to loosen the purse strings etc are simply opinions. How do we know how much running the club costs or how much the budgets are. How much are we still paying to the 3 permanent managers we had last season, how much to players who have been and gone, how much any of our players are on, etc etc. Yet some demand Raj leaves, or he spends more of HIS money, even though none of us know if JA has even asked for more.
We need to accept the reality of where we are, a club with no sugar daddy, with a squad still including past manager mistakes, and ravaged by injuries to key players. We won't struggle at the bottom end of the division and may even scrape the play offs, but we need to get behind the manager and stabilise things on the field and eventually get shit of the deadwood to allow better players to come in. It won't happen overnight, and even with massive investment wouldn't (look how long Man City took to become the best team in the PL and how many managers did they go through before Pep arrived).
This demand for instant success isn't ambition it's fantasy, similarly acceptance that it'll take time to turn things around isn't lack of ambition it's reality.


So staying in the EFL n then trying to get back there is now classed as Fantasy Football. sctatchinghead

Are ya Sings accountant :o
FFS.
Show a tad of ambition


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 Post subject: Re: How are Solihull better than us???
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:36 pm 
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Not at all, I thought I'd made my position quite clear, we need a clear out to make way for better players and that ain't happening today or tomorrow. We may yet make the play offs which would be fantastic this season, I'm as ambitious as anyone for where I want the club to be, and I would think Raj is too but financial reality will always take precedence over fans demands to splash the cash. If he's not ambitious for the club then he's an absolute moron otherwise why would he put even a single penny in, I don't think he's that moron otherwise he wouldn't be rich for very long.
Show some realism and stop blaming the chairman for everything including players making basic errors, or you could always show some ambition and get some mates to chip in and buy him out and spend YOUR money while the moaners are constantly on your case.


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 Post subject: Re: How are Solihull better than us???
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:38 pm 
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PTID wrote:
None of us know the facts to be honest. Statements like poorly run, Raj needs to loosen the purse strings etc are simply opinions. How do we know how much running the club costs or how much the budgets are. How much are we still paying to the 3 permanent managers we had last season, how much to players who have been and gone, how much any of our players are on, etc etc. Yet some demand Raj leaves, or he spends more of HIS money, even though none of us know if JA has even asked for more.
We need to accept the reality of where we are, a club with no sugar daddy, with a squad still including past manager mistakes, and ravaged by injuries to key players. We won't struggle at the bottom end of the division and may even scrape the play offs, but we need to get behind the manager and stabilise things on the field and eventually get shit of the deadwood to allow better players to come in. It won't happen overnight, and even with massive investment wouldn't (look how long Man City took to become the best team in the PL and how many managers did they go through before Pep arrived).
This demand for instant success isn't ambition it's fantasy, similarly acceptance that it'll take time to turn things around isn't lack of ambition it's reality.


Thats the trouble PTID.
You are being realistic, Won,t go down well with some.
Imo its spot on.


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 Post subject: Re: How are Solihull better than us???
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:42 pm 
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Snowy wrote:
PTID wrote:
None of us know the facts to be honest. Statements like poorly run, Raj needs to loosen the purse strings etc are simply opinions. How do we know how much running the club costs or how much the budgets are. How much are we still paying to the 3 permanent managers we had last season, how much to players who have been and gone, how much any of our players are on, etc etc. Yet some demand Raj leaves, or he spends more of HIS money, even though none of us know if JA has even asked for more.
We need to accept the reality of where we are, a club with no sugar daddy, with a squad still including past manager mistakes, and ravaged by injuries to key players. We won't struggle at the bottom end of the division and may even scrape the play offs, but we need to get behind the manager and stabilise things on the field and eventually get shit of the deadwood to allow better players to come in. It won't happen overnight, and even with massive investment wouldn't (look how long Man City took to become the best team in the PL and how many managers did they go through before Pep arrived).
This demand for instant success isn't ambition it's fantasy, similarly acceptance that it'll take time to turn things around isn't lack of ambition it's reality.


Just about sums it up nicely, expectation overrides common sense and common sense is seen as lack of ambition.
Unless someone has access to all the financial facts they are in no position to speculate, fantasise or assume because they don’t have the facts to feed their obsession.
Our early season success was greeted cautiously and briefly by some, yet after the Chesterfield defeat which was nearly a draw, their floodgates opened full flow, it’s so predictable you can set your watch by it, even the tide table’s not that good.
It looks like Raj will never be forgiven for letting DC go and must bear the blame for all subsequent events, but he was never staying here after Stockport came a courting with a far bigger treasure chest to dig into….
I really hope the passing multi millionaire turns up one day, but I won’t hold my breath. :roll:


Don,t forget DC is an ambitious Man who rightly wants to further his career.
He did what was right for himself, Most of us do.

Can,t see what Raj did wrong apart from getting Dosh from the move.


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 Post subject: Re: How are Solihull better than us???
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:48 pm 
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
PTID wrote:
None of us know the facts to be honest. Statements like poorly run, Raj needs to loosen the purse strings etc are simply opinions. How do we know how much running the club costs or how much the budgets are. How much are we still paying to the 3 permanent managers we had last season, how much to players who have been and gone, how much any of our players are on, etc etc. Yet some demand Raj leaves, or he spends more of HIS money, even though none of us know if JA has even asked for more.
We need to accept the reality of where we are, a club with no sugar daddy, with a squad still including past manager mistakes, and ravaged by injuries to key players. We won't struggle at the bottom end of the division and may even scrape the play offs, but we need to get behind the manager and stabilise things on the field and eventually get shit of the deadwood to allow better players to come in. It won't happen overnight, and even with massive investment wouldn't (look how long Man City took to become the best team in the PL and how many managers did they go through before Pep arrived).
This demand for instant success isn't ambition it's fantasy, similarly acceptance that it'll take time to turn things around isn't lack of ambition it's reality.


So staying in the EFL n then trying to get back there is now classed as Fantasy Football. sctatchinghead

Are ya Sings accountant :o
FFS.
Show a tad of ambition


A little unfair there Kevin imo, Unfortunately Ambition is linked to finance(mostly).
And as the poster stated players need to be shipped out.

I,ve also yet to meet a perfect boss.


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 Post subject: Re: How are Solihull better than us???
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:57 pm 
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:

So staying in the EFL n then trying to get back there is now classed as Fantasy Football. sctatchinghead

Are ya Sings accountant :o
FFS.
Show a tad of ambition

That’s the catch, none of us is Singh’s accountant, so without that information (which is none of my business incidentally) how can anyone possibly demand money be thrown about, his money, when we haven’t got a clue how much is involved…. sctatchinghead

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 Post subject: Re: How are Solihull better than us???
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The real argument for the chairman finding some more money for JA is - I'm not sure if he can afford not to.

The atmosphere at the Vic on Tuesday night was really apathetic - even the young lads in the North West Corner were subdued for most of the game. We're still in September - if results don't improve Pools will struggle to get 3,000 in and most of that will be season tickets, so no extra revenue. We'll probably be our usual shit selves in the cups so a decent showing in the league is imperative.

The team needs only a couple of strong signings - like Johnson, Sterry and Armstrong 3 years ago - to get its mojo back. Raj managed to speculate to accumulate in the NL when they was no gate income because of Covid, so I hope he realises he needs to do it again.


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 Post subject: Re: How are Solihull better than us???
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Flying Hogans wrote:
The real argument for the chairman finding some more money for JA is - I'm not sure if he can afford not to.

The atmosphere at the Vic on Tuesday night was really apathetic - even the young lads in the North West Corner were subdued for most of the game. We're still in September - if results don't improve Pools will struggle to get 3,000 in and most of that will be season tickets, so no extra revenue. We'll probably be our usual shit selves in the cups so a decent showing in the league is imperative.

The team needs only a couple of strong signings - like Johnson, Sterry and Armstrong 3 years ago - to get its mojo back. Raj managed to speculate to accumulate in the NL when they was no gate income because of Covid, so I hope he realises he needs to do it again.

You’re right…..there’s a lethargy about.

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 Post subject: Re: How are Solihull better than us???
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Grayhoundend wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
PTID wrote:
None of us know the facts to be honest. Statements like poorly run, Raj needs to loosen the purse strings etc are simply opinions. How do we know how much running the club costs or how much the budgets are. How much are we still paying to the 3 permanent managers we had last season, how much to players who have been and gone, how much any of our players are on, etc etc. Yet some demand Raj leaves, or he spends more of HIS money, even though none of us know if JA has even asked for more.
We need to accept the reality of where we are, a club with no sugar daddy, with a squad still including past manager mistakes, and ravaged by injuries to key players. We won't struggle at the bottom end of the division and may even scrape the play offs, but we need to get behind the manager and stabilise things on the field and eventually get shit of the deadwood to allow better players to come in. It won't happen overnight, and even with massive investment wouldn't (look how long Man City took to become the best team in the PL and how many managers did they go through before Pep arrived).
This demand for instant success isn't ambition it's fantasy, similarly acceptance that it'll take time to turn things around isn't lack of ambition it's reality.


So staying in the EFL n then trying to get back there is now classed as Fantasy Football. sctatchinghead

Are ya Sings accountant :o
FFS.
Show a tad of ambition


A little unfair there Kevin imo, Unfortunately Ambition is linked to finance(mostly).
And as the poster stated players need to be shipped out.

I,ve also yet to meet a perfect boss.


A mild reply.
Wasent PJ Poolie style :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: How are Solihull better than us???
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derwent wrote:
Pooly_Imp wrote:
We've been poorly run. Thats why we are under achieving for our size and keep getting humiliatedby pub teams. Stop scrabbling around for excuses folks.


Do you know that it would be irony personified if you ended up in one of Raj's care homes. preferably in a three bedded room with yer two mates.
It could be called the three broom doom room. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:



As long as we're not next door to the happy clappers room. Poor deluded noisy fools, constantly making excuses for cut backs in case the owner kicks em all out and locks the doors.


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 Post subject: Re: How are Solihull better than us???
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Solihull settled team from last year with one or two changes. Pools a shambles last year and in the process of a re-build hampered by injury crisis. Defenders keep making errors which suggests they are not good enough but cant be replaced.

they have got something pools have never had for years. continuity on the pitch without a new team every season and managers last longer because people associated with the club and fans are happy at the level they are at unlike us who hate the national league and cannot wait to get out of it. doubt they are as intitled as us and take the piss out of teams with few travelling fans as if thats a recepie for success.


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accrington fan wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Solihull settled team from last year with one or two changes. Pools a shambles last year and in the process of a re-build hampered by injury crisis. Defenders keep making errors which suggests they are not good enough but cant be replaced.

they have got something pools have never had for years. continuity on the pitch without a new team every season and managers last longer because people associated with the club and fans are happy at the level they are at unlike us who hate the national league and cannot wait to get out of it. doubt they are as intitled as us and take the piss out of teams with few travelling fans as if thats a recepie for success.


Ah its Pools fans fault. Of course.


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Grayhoundend wrote:

For me Solihull look like the 2nd coming of Sutton.


Sutton looked nailed on for relegation at the minute. Oh dear, what a pity. :lol:

if that does happen i really doubt most of there fans will not go into suicide mode as traditional lower league fans do when they drop out. it will be more like when teams go down from league 1 to 2.


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