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Brief details on Loughlins Twitter also mentions new group putting money in.

Have you got a link, Mate.

This is the tweet

Average day at Victoria Park. Director stands down, details of new group to donate monthly direct debits to the club emerges, while a supporters group tweets that the chief executive should go. #NeverSayDie

Will this new group be the NWC by any chance?.

I see South Shields supporters have so far raised 300k towards a target of a million. We could , if our supporters were truly UNITED raise a similar amount if not more , towards either helping the current club or a fighting fund for a phoenix club if the Raj project goes tits up, but instead we are throwing, I feel , good money after bad , into a decomposing club, in dribs and drabs, 30k from one group, 200k from another group etc etc with no structure to it, and likely to disappear into a black hole.

[quote="horden" instead we are throwing, I feel , good money after bad , into a decomposing club, in dribs and drabs, 30k from one group, 200k from another group etc etc with no structure to it, and likely to disappear into a black hole.[/quote]
all this to us sounds a lot of money but is just chicken feed to a club of pools size. say 2,000 fans every season were conned into giving 100 pounds each to some super fan scheme where you recieved a limited edition Raj loves you badge it would take years of this just to pay off the club debt. when we are allowed to do it fans do what is necessary of them. turn up and pay their gate money if they have not bought a season ticket.

Thank you.

Loughlin's a bitter man these days. How he must long for better times, when he still had his job at the Echo and was on the best of terms with the Hartlepool chairman - and Coxall was playing him for all he was worth.

all this to us sounds a lot of money but is just chicken feed to a club of pools size. say 2,000 fans every season were conned into giving 100 pounds each to some super fan scheme where you recieved a limited edition Raj loves you badge it would take years of this just to pay off the club debt. when we are allowed to do it fans do what is necessary of them. turn up and pay their gate money if they have not bought a season ticket.[/quote]

I know, but if a club is well run, you attract investment, money goes to money as they say. That is why people are willing to invest in clubs like Harrogate and South Shields rather than us. Raj isn't investing in us, he has just loaned us the money and wants it back + a little bit more ideally.

I don't see him as being bitter.Most of us are in a position were we long for better times, there can't be many who can say these are good times surely.

Nick Loughlin has found a new job anyway, best of luck to the lad I say , pleased for him.

Although I don’t know Nick personally I always thought of him as a fan first and a reporter secondly. I always like him on Radio Tees and thought he gave an honest opinion and did not hold back on criticising players and his memory of previous games/seasons was second to non.

I like him for the fact he doesn't sit on the fence. Talking of Radio Tees, last couple of games , I have been really annoyed by the noise of Dom Scurr typing out his report in the background. Down to cutbacks I suppose, miss the days when co-commentators actually co-commentated , not doubled up as journalists and commentators and kit man.

There can't be many Pools fans who don't regard Coxall running the club into the ground in a matter of months as the absolute worst of times. Even when the writing was on the wall Nick Loughlin mocked people on here for pointing out the bleeding obvious. His behaviour then was a poor excuse for proper journalism and so are snarky comments on Twitter now.

If he thinks there's a rabbit away at Pools he should dig out the facts and write a proper story.

Or is it just sensible cost reduction.

Raj gave update tonight on tees


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BREAKING: Hartlepool United Chairman Raj Singh has told BBC Radio Tees the departure of Director Ian Scobbie was due his work commitments elsewhere and that the time was right to part ways. He won’t be replaced and the move isn’t a signal of a potential takeover.
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It’s said the separation was amicable. The Chairman says he’s still committed to the club and is confident they can push for promotion this season.

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with the fans tonight from six.

That will be a NO!

Agree, the Coxhall era wasnt Nicks finest hour, I'm sure he knows that now.

Thanks

It’s pinned to the NWCs twitter page John so there’s an obvious link there.

I agree with some here, I regarded Loughlin as a fan first, reporter second. Without his reports on Hartlepool there’s nothing in the Echo these days, it’s an empty shell in terms of Pools. I bought it everyday, have stopped now Living in Durham I didn’t get the Mail but read online now. In the dark days of Pools Loughlin kept it going, I also liked his commentary where he praised & criticized as he thought. Yes the Coxall era had many of us conned including him, I’ll never forget the night he hosted the event with Coxall & Dave Jones! Obviously we all know what Coxall was now! At the time I seem to remember a lot of people didn’t have a good word forKen Hodcroft & IOR !
This season I hope we are good enough to challenge/ go up, Raj has put a lot of his own money in, maybes the way South Shields are going’s the way forward, Little Mix’s Jade Thirlwells put money in & this has given the club a high profile. A bold statement, within 5 years South Shields will be in the league, like Harrogate & Salford they may well be ahead of us?

[quote="The deluded Mr, maybes the way South Shields are going’s the way forward, Little Mix’s Jade Thirlwells put money in & this has given the club a high profile. A bold statement, within 5 years South Shields will be in the league, like Harrogate & Salford they may well be ahead of us?[/quote]
its so easy for these clubs nowadays. starting without a million pound debt around your neck after years of mistakes helps a lot. every penny made goes to a club for players and ground improvements. as long as the interest remains and the money comes in it would be hard for em to get it totally wrong. the vast majority of league clubs and ex league clubs are in debt. its whether this debt is manageable by owners to move any club forward.

I get what you are saying Mr Accrington, just as in real life, it helps when you don't start off life saddled with debt , but its never easy, and success in still not guaranteed. I bet Pools could prove that if there debts where wiped clean. The secret is running a club properly. The only time we have been run properly, and even then that was far from perfect , was under IOR, so it was no surprise that an upturn in our fortunes soon followed. When they left ,things returned to normal, the way the had been in the previous 90 years.

Pools were debt free 4 years ago when IOR were ready to hand it over for £1. Just our luck that the only people who seemed interested in taking over a debt-free football league club were the Brummie shysters who went to jail for purloining the gate receipts off Russ Green and the Cockney shysters who actually got their hands on the club. Was it bad luck or more to do with the fact that North East England is the poorest region in the UK? HUFC can't help being in Hartlepool.

before IOR it was not all about the club being run properly but the actually lack of money about the club which mirrored the town itself. some chairman and owners have always given the impression of the club being more about them than the fans and town itself. know i was brought up fortunetly an somewhate a pools golden era of the 50,s where the strongest rumour in the town was that pools did not want promotion as they just could not afford it. that being true or not it was if true more of directors going as far as they financially could than bad running of the club. your heart may be in the right place but if your pocket isn,t then you are stuffed.

the NE may be the poorest area of the country but like in every area there will be people who are minted who live within 15 miles of the vic. its just that they are not interested in pools or football in general. pity they are not because they could get fame they never thought they would ever get in the local area if they brought success to pools and put the town on the map.

The NE wasnt always the poorest region, yet for the most part HUFC have usually struggled, whereas other clubs in similar industrial areas have tasted a little bit of success. Economics obviously plays a part, but I have always maintained there is/was something different about Hartlepool as a town that has contributed to its lack of success.

https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/club ... OPHbyLhNeE

Coincidence or not? after Scobbie announcement. Appears Jesper on his way out

Now Jesper has gone.

I'll leave it to others to speculate about how there could be a connection, but if Pools are ready to appoint "a full-time permanent Chief Operating Officer" it's not before time. Jesper was all but invisible to fans in his temporary role and there'll be tons for the new person to do, especially as the news about a vaccine should mean that crowds are back in the Vic by the spring at latest.

Anybody moving to the area for the job would be well advised to rent not buy though

I wonder if they will accept applications from Bunkerites.
A massive chance for Mr Horden to put all his ideas into practice perhaps.
Mr H could be the new "it's you Ron Ron".
Hows about it Matey.

They couldn't afford Mr.Horden, he's already making six figures per annum working in the city.

Got to be Horden he knows exactly how the club should be run and where all the money is being wasted. Gets my vote, can’t fail.

I'm here if the club wants me.

Some of the comments on fb tonight are hilarious. You after laugh.

“Elected fan rep JP” elected by who ? When did the fans vote for him ?

Chief Operating Officer job description as described by the EFL

All sounds a bit new-agey to me.

Straight away I had a problem with No 1.

Also the words UNITY, RESILIENCE , BELIEF, which in my language means, don't criticise, don't rock the boat, do as you are told.

The whole problem at Pools is the board, if you have to follow their orders, then god help the poor bugger who gets the job. Has to be the worst job in football this one. Good luck to whoever gets it, they'll need it and more.

https://www.efl.com/siteassets/jobs/nca ... iption.pdf

Here is the official job spec, found on the Careers in Sport website (why aren't Pools using their own website?) Why is communication on a multitude of platforms and not necessarily duplicated across all platforms either. There must be some fans, particularly older ones who are now completely cut off from what is happening at the club.

https://careers-in-sport.co.uk/jobs/chi ... g-officer/

[quote="horden"]Here is the official job spec, found on the Careers in Sport website (why aren't Pools using their own website?) Why is communication on a multitude of platforms and not necessarily duplicated across all platforms either. There must be some fans, particularly older ones who are now completely cut off from what is happening at the club.

imgine there are loads of fans especially the older ones who just turn up every game whose only interest is the 90 minutes of football. anything from the press only interests em if players leave or signed. all the off field stuff leaves em cold.

The older ones like the tittle tattle believe me, its just they used to get it either from newspapers or the workmens club , which was the social media of the past

The man in question then edited his comment to selected after it was pointed out he wasn’t elected but tried to make out as if he never said elected not realising you can see editing history on Facebook. It did make me chuckle.

First thing I would do is scrap the fans group. In time it would return in some shape or form, but would only be a couple of fans and they would have to be elected