Tweeted this gem earlier

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That says so much. WOW............pretty damning eh.

he's still tweeting, pretty damning stuff.

Have a look at the Loughlin article: 'Jones Set His Standards From the Off' in the Northern Echo. Even the title is a dig!

Sounds like he undermined everyone on the staff apart from his two buddies on the coaching side. Odious knob-head.

Funny game though, journalism. Acting bessie mates till he gets the bullet, then straight out with the knives.

He's not holding back but he's just confirming what we all thought

So where was the senior Management?

Yes makes you wonder how he lasted so long with terrible results and being an absolute arsehole on top

A lot of suspicions nailed in these tweets, sounds like absolute poison.

What a tosser.

Just read his tweets- bloody hell that is utterly damning. I foolishly allowed myself a glimmer of hope that removing him might just lift everyone to a performance of some description on Saturday.

But why were they licking his arse while he was in post?

Don't know obviously but I guess they don't want to become known as trouble makers, like Paynter was known as previously. He seems a decent chap actually but not many wanted him here when his signing was rumoured. He missed the best part of a season because of it. Maybe it's that kind of thing?

I'm not sure they were to be honest.

Nick Loughlin has been absolutely scathing of recent performances on Radio Tees, Eddie Kyle was saying he has to go because everyone hates him on the radio before Saturdays game by all accounts. While he's still in the job a working relationship needs to be maintained but I'm not sure I've seen a single example of 'arse licking'

Loughlin failed to mention his scruffy appearance and sausage gate in his "state of the nation" article. A clearer example of arse kissing and cosying upto the regime at Pools you will struggle to find.

If the players are slightly in fear of a manager and don't want to get on the wrong side of him then that can be at times a good thing. If the as manager is hard but fair the players will still respect him. You don't want players to be best mates with the manager I think previous regimes at Pools have been a bit cosy and too matey.

But someone who is aggrogant, disrespectful and rude and another matter whatsoever I had no idea he was that type of man.

Really?

I think it was Craig Hope who actually made that point privately on the day he got the job and it was mentioned between them on Twitter last week. Nobody with a half a brain is going to write something like that about a bloke he needs to maintain a working relationship with in order to do his job properly.

I don't think it's a case of one size fits all with a managers approach. It has to be tailored to the individuals.

I've read Neil Warnock's autobiography and in it he mentions about Adel Taarabt and how much of a loose cannon he was but he let him get away with murder because of how good he was on a Saturday and his ability to win games on his own. He says how Clint Hill (club Captain) went fucking apeshit with him because of Taarabt's attitude and just not abiding by the rules but Warnock said to him something along the lines of, let him get on with it he'll get us promoted which Hill didn't like but accepted it and they went up.

A similar thing at Man Ure...I think Lee Sharpe told the tale about how the squad had to go to a dinner or some shit and Fergie said to Sharpe in no uncertain terms that he had to wear appropriate shirt/tie/footwear (Sharpe liked his clothes for anyone who doesn't know). Anyway, Cantona turns up in something like loafers with no socks etc and Fergie said fuck all to him and was in fact, nice as pie to him.

Being a tactical genius is very handy but being a man manager is the number one skill in my opinion.

Jones was clearly lacking in this area.....as a lot of managers are in my opinion.

Even when I play, there are lads who need a fucking bollocking to get them going whereas others need priase and an arm round/quiet word.

I must admit, personally I can't stand gobshites on a football pitch. We had one play for us last season, just permanently angry and not in a motivational way either. Absolute tosser. And like most gobshites, he was no <insert professional player of your choosing>

The thing is Jones has a good record as a manager.

He can't have been like this previously, or as bad, he came to the club with the wrong attitude thinking he's above this level of football and better than people already at the club.

Indeed but he may have had players around him, the bulk of which, accepted his arrogance, who knows?

Some managers are very lucky at the team they inherit as well, one where they don't have to do very much to be successful.

My Sheff Wed supporting mate told me he was a 'lovely lovely person' from day one.

So what's the point of him as a journalist he is just an extension of the club website. He still gets in the press conferences whether he says he is a scruffy sausage muncher or not. It's just a case of personal and professional integrity.

Having a leader already in the dressing room, like a John McPhail type character , can be a new managers best friend as well, keeping any maverick players in hand,we don't have a leader, that cant of helped. Jones was arrogant but I think he underestimated just what a monumental task managing HUFC is, many have failed before him and many more will fail, not having great facilities or a good boardroom couldn't of helped. I imagine it was like when you start a new job, and within days you realise you have dropped an almighty bollock, he never looked happy from day one and that permeated through the club in double quick time.

In a nutshell.

Totally agree, would imagine one of the main reasons the players have looked as though they have been going through the motions last couple months is because they probably had wind that they would be out of work in May. I know I didn't bust a gut when I was working my notice prior to redundancy.

Jones tenure took the biscuit, easily surpassing some of the comedy farce we have seen from previous managers. This list is not exhaustive, playing a right back at left back, a centre mid at centre back, a right mid on the left and a left mid on the right, a forward at right mid, dropping the top scorer , a great goals to games ratio in a struggling team, gives Richardson start at right back, does ok, then mysteriously drops him, then brings him back a few games later, playing an attacking mid at left back,drops Woods and replaces with Deverdics or other way around, then 45 mins into game takes Deverdics off and replaces with Woods, signs inferior loan players then doesn't even play them, as you say didn't fill the bench up at times, then suddenly decides it is a good idea to put Hawkes on the bench, but then Hawkes disappears from the bench, absolute madness, no wonder players were pi*sed off

Arrogance and complacency. Assuming relegation was impossible and it was just a case of seeing the season out. What could possibly go wrong
All that we got was management by bystander and when it went tits up it was a case of nowt to do with me guv.
They say a poor workman always blames his tools. This was a case of the tool blaming the workmen.

I find it more disturbing that Bartlett had 18months on his contract. This says the cull in the summer of the playing squad that is required will not happen for another season. Adam Bartlett was a very limited keeper who no doubt was told not good enough. People saying after the event they didn't like him who are not associated to the club as some exclusive messenger is pathetic as jones team performance

Which means what......?

Read it 5 times im still not sure


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Trevor Carson is an excellent keeper though also tied to a long term contract, Bartlett was ok back up for the odd game here and there that he missed on International duty, obviously the problem came when he got a long term injury. I doubt he was on a great deal of money. He's no real loss playing wise but he was also adequate for the role he had.

Why are people making utterly ridiculous comments like people are saying they didn't like him 'after the event' Take a step back and consider how absurd that is? I am fairly certain privately they were saying they didn't like him, Bartlett has described the atmosphere at the club as toxic. What can you do about it publicly though? Are you suggesting that people came out publically stating they despised their boss!? That seems a cracking move.... Or that journalists called him out as an arrogant tit in articles when they have to work with him in order to do their job on a weekly sometimes daily basis? I suggest a couple of people need to take a trip to the real World.

I'm thinking of taking it to MI5 to get it de-coded.

I would love to take a trip to your contrarian paradise PJ

Do you even know what contrarian means!?

You and one other person in this thread have tried to put a similar point over, and your user name is 'unruly Poolie'

The ironing is delicious.

need two wins!!!

As a journo you have a job to do which means you do your job reporting on the full situation, that's what the job entails. I need a bit more than match reports, that's just part of it.