Watched lots of the news over the weekend about Labour and Corbyn. A few things sprung to mind:

1. Corbyns followers are like the disciples from a pyschopathic religious cult. Wouldnt want to be in the same building, never mind room, with them.

2. Corbyn just seems to be the figure put at the top. The real leader is John McDonnell, and he is one nasty little twat. And mad as a fucking hatter. His recent comments that a tory woman should be lynched, was nuts. And he wont retract the comment either.

3. They are utterly unelectable now. They are nothing more than a student fringe movement, with a few old school Union headcases backing them.

4. They seem to have more henchmen, than an a 1980s KGB.

So where does this leave the vast majority of the public? Those in the middle ground?

Most would never vote Tory. Most have never forgiven that pussy Clegg for his lies, so the Lib Dems are a waste of space.

Right minded people would never vote for the racists. Sorry, the UK independant party.

Its time to leave the country, maybe?

Bit surprised to see you've swallowed all the media shite about Corbyn. The bloke is basically a left of centre reformist who wants things to be run more in the interests of ordinary people rather than the bankers. Saying stuff like we'll take specific railways back into public ownership if the contracts aren't working hardly makes him a revolutionary. Don't spend a fortune on new nuclear weapons when you can't fund the NHS properly isn't really a mad position to take is it?

You can argue he's wrong and that the more middle of the road, pro-business approach of Blair and co was better but I think it is good to see an actual alternative to endless cuts and austerity being proposed. Looks like a clear majority of Labour Party members think that too. Even after they'd expelled or suspended 25% of the membership on trumped up charges Corbyn still increased his vote.

Convincing the wider public might be a tall order but if you look at the growth of the SNP and anti-austerity movements around Europe it looks like people are considering options that used to be seen as far too radical.

I doubt very much that Labour can win any national election in the near future who ever their leader is. They've lost the Scottish vote and the boundary changes favour the Tories. At least Corbyn seems better able to get young people involved than any other candidate. All in all politics in the UK is in a pretty dire state at the moment. At least they have all got something important to occupy themselves with over the coming 2 years.

Sorry mate but I think you have missed my point with this.

I want a labour government. I want a btter NHS,na dproperly and fully funded. I want the railways backinto National control. I want billions less spent on defence and fighting others wars.

But I dont believe Corbyn is that man, and I dont actually think he is really in charge. Not only that, this lot arent saying what they will do, only saying what they would like.

They never really want to make decisions, because, if you listen to the ay they talk, they constantly talk about democracy, and debating. They want to debate this and debate that with their comrades. Its neo political speak, used by this type of politician, and has been down the years.

If they got into power, they would take every single decision back to "Labour party members", and every decision would be made by the majority, the majority of whom are left wing activists.

Thats because most people dont have the time, or energy, to get involved in this sort of shite. They prefer to leave important decisions to the elected representitives.

This lot wont do that. They just like to debate, then threaten those that dont agree.

Bunch of lunatics.

Thats not to say Blair was any better. Though he did start off better.

The way i see Corbyn i put into a simple Observation.

If he was working in a factory i would term him as a Plodder, says and does the same things over and over again and will never change come what may.

What do i think about the Labour party, you can say what you want but unless you are the Government you can do Jack Shit but hope for the best.

Will we ever see a Labour Government again i would say looking a this current Mob i very much doubt it.

As for Politicians in General, One is to many and we have over 650 of the useless self serving @uckers

I want a labour government. I want a btter NHS,na dproperly and fully funded. I want the railways backinto National control. I want billions less spent on defence and fighting others wars. Well the Labour right have shown in power and opposition that they won't try to get any of those things for you. If Corbyn and his supporters don't win the internal scrap they'll just be Tory-lite like Blair was.

But I dont believe Corbyn is that man, and I dont actually think he is really in charge. Not only that, this lot arent saying what they will do, only saying what they would like. Maybe he isn't but at least he wasn't caught with his snout in the parliamentary expenses trough and isn't in the pay of financial institutions through directorships, sponsorships and speaking fees.

They never really want to make decisions, because, if you listen to the ay they talk, they constantly talk about democracy, and debating. They want to debate this and debate that with their comrades. Its neo political speak, used by this type of politician, and has been down the years.

If they got into power, they would take every single decision back to "Labour party members", and every decision would be made by the majority, the majority of whom are left wing activists. Blair was very decisive. He reduced the role of Labour Party members in forming policy, then started to ignore his own MPs and eventually ended up joining in with wars without having to explain his case to anybody except himself. Can't see the problem with the members of a political party helping to formulate policies and then expecting their MPs and so on to broadly stick to them at least most of the time.

Thats because most people dont have the time, or energy, to get involved in this sort of shite. They prefer to leave important decisions to the elected representitives.

This lot wont do that. They just like to debate, then threaten those that dont agree. The threats thing is bollocks though. It isn't exactly outrageously threatening to say that you might use democratic procedures to vote to change MPs who don't make any effort to listen to their members. Dispatches had somebody undercover in Momentum for six months and found no violence, no anti-semitism and no sexism to report. Panorama didn't do much better. The claims of threats and so on all come from people who clearly wanted rid of Corbyn, surely there'd be a few neutrals saying they'd seen it too if it was really going on?

Bunch of lunatics.

Thats not to say Blair was any better. Though he did start off better. He was a better orator and had a slicker political operation but he was also a self-serving, power-hungry tosser from the off. Power didn't corrupt Blair, he was happy to sell his soul from the off.

Sorry like, but when it comes to Politics there is never no smoke without fire.

I cannot vote for any party that has some snake like sinister twat like John McDonnell in power.

He is a complete nutjob, and many respected commentators believe he is the real powerhouse of the Labour party now.

Another reason is that scouse Uinion bloke, who's name escapes me, that keeps popping up supporting Corbyn. I wouldnt trust that fucker either. Though that might be something to do with his scoude accent.

Whether we like it or not, the country needs leaders that have economic nouse, as well as social ambitions, and that leader needs to be charismatic. Corbyn just looks like a scruffy college lecturer that has given up,and isgoing through the motions.

It doesnt need politicians, when asked questions, that relpy with answers like "we will take it all back to the membership, and debate with comrades, and then form our democratic decision.

The country will end up in absolute chaos in no time.

Maybe it already is?

Corbyns position on Brexit was also pretty shabby and weak as piss.

problem is corbyn is a knee jurk reaction to blair, brown, mandelson and balls. many labour supporters like me have never voted again due to their stance and lies on a number of subjects. need an alternative to the tories but jeremy is not the answer but neither are the blairite brigade. don,t know the answer but i wish i did.

You're implying he actually had a position.
Though to be honest that's the only bone I have to pick with him.

It's a friggin' huge brontosaurus bone, mind.

Funnily enough I like John McDonnell, more than Corbyn to be honest. Can't see why you think he's a sinister twat or a complete nutjob. I just think he genuinely hates the Tories and wants revenge for what Thatcher did to the unions. Seems fair to me .

A lot of this is dog whistle stuff cultivated by an unendingly hostile media. McDonnell waving Mao's little red book around on the Labour front benches is one of my highlights of the year so far - a daft moment - and he was grinning like a schoolboy - but refreshing to see a 'left wing' politician acknowledging social democracy's marxist roots!

It's the received wisdom to say Corbyn has no chance in a General Election, but these days electorates are so volatile is it wise to rule anything out?

Maggie May ain't going to win any popularity contests, and a couple of years down the line a lot of floating voters could be very sick of her brand of Toryism.

Farage has done Labour in England and Wales a huge favour by walking away from his UKIP backstabbers - how well does anyone think they're going to do now that whatsherface is party leader?

And while Owen Smith was promising a second referendum on Europe to try to sway the metropolitan Momentum groupies, Corbyn accepted the Brexit vote, didn't lose his core support and now has a chance of making a credible pitch to disgruntled Old Labour supporters.

A couple of big by-election wins for Labour and things could start to look very different.

You only have to watch and listen to any interview with McDonnell to see what a sinister looking twat he is.

I wouldnt trust him as far as I could fling him.

I dont trust MPs as a rule, but he is one that just looks and acts worse than the rest.

An odious fucker. And he talks through his teeth.

Appearances can be deceiving though. I've been told you look completely gormless but you're a reasonably sharp bloke considering.

Right. Who told you?

Can't name names but it was one of your best mates. He said gormless but he was clearly trying to be kind.

Best mates?

At least I know you are lying now.

Dont have any mates.

It's like two distinct party's. The talk of 'unity' is fooling no one. This is all about remodelling the party.

And he is in the news again this morning as he is now refusing to do interviews with the mainstream media.

This has been applauded by his disciples and he is claiming he is only answerable to them.

Well thats gonna get him into power. Not.

It's like a newly promoted Premiership club where the Klingon fans appear from nowhere. Under a 'groundbreaking' system the manager is elected by the fans, but most of the team think the manager is clueless. The manager then plays the first team in the reserves and brings in the fringest of the fringe players, then decides it would be a good idea to let the fans pick the team as well. Genius.

Thats a very good analogy. The whole thing is crackers.

But because he has some social policy ideas that most people agree with, they want him in power.

Mad.

The problem with Socialism is the greedy bastards at the top don't want to pay their share.. I'm sure if some actually stood up and said we are going to put up Base rate by 2% to pay for NHS they'd get in for sure..

Also if we scrapped a few submarines that only ensure we can participate in Armaggedon as fully paid up members who gives a fuck

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Maybe its about time we got back to electing people because we agree with their social policies. Giving power to a bunch of smug masters of spin who base every decision on whatever the banks tell them don't seem to have worked out very well. Unless you're a banker of course.

I totally agree with your sentiment here. But Corbyn, or his spin team pulling his strings, isnt the answer.

He will not get the vote from the middle ground. Not in a million years.

Makes him as pointless as lib dems.

Labour need someone that takes the best of Corbyn and the best of Blair.

What Corbyns team have, is much more dangeous than mad tories.

But what a fucking choice. The mad left or the mad right. Or worse, the racist far right.

Makes you despair.

Nothing is as pointless as Lib Dems. Not even Sunderland under Moyes.

UKIP???? .... reckon our town would odds on to return one next election. .

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It's a shame about Corbyn. He has some very worthy aims but I just don't think he is the man to deliver them. Also there is the defence thing. At best naivety, at worst dangerous complacency.

I've always thought that MPs should represent their constituents that elected them, not the party that they stood for at the election. On that basis whips should be abolished and all votes should be free votes with MPs deciding what is in their constituents and the country's best interests. They could then be judged at the next election. In addition MPs that aren't in the chamber for a minimum of 25% of the debate before a vote should not be allowed to vote. All MPs should be subject to a reselection process by their party at every general election before the great unwashed make their decision.

Can I just say as a through and through Tory..... I'm overjoyed that Corbyn was re-elected. Long may him and Comrade O'Connell stay in charge.

Now if I were a Labour supporter, that statement would worry me.

Its McDonnell. Bloody tories.

Its It's. Bloody UKIPers.

I dont mind being picked up on my grammar but dont ever call me a UKIPer.

I am offended.

Sorry, low blow. #bants

I accept your humble apology.

I have removed you from my hit list.

And don't forget we're all racists according to that horrendous racist monster Diane Abbot.

We have had nearly 40 years of Thatcherism. The Blair/Brown axis was in no way a Labour government (they were far to the right of Ted Heath for example)and largely continued the economic policies of John Major. For this period the financial sector was going to provide the engine room of endless trickle-down prosperity, at least for the top 10%. Then we found out that the "City" was populated by a load of over-confident, red braced chancers who were about as financially competent as a lagered up Byker slapper on a ladies day at Gosforth races.
So, maybe it's time for a change - any change. I have no problem with most of Corbyns policies and the fact that the City hates him can only be a good thing in my opinion. However, he is no leader, being (as someone said) a protester rather than a persuader. We desperately need someone to counter the Daily Mail/Express lead hysteria that's gripping the country and shredding any hope of a Brexit that works.

Sorry but I dont get this. Most of what Corbyn suggests is just sensible stuff that all right minded people would agree with.

But he has no fucking idea howhe will make it work, never mind how he will pay for it.

Yesterday they made a lot of sweeping statements about the manufacturing industry and how they were going to revive it.

How the fuck do they do that then?

Just build a load of new factories nationally owned? Really?

Are we the new China?

It would be interesting to see what happened if he was PM, but I am not gonna chance it.

Yeah it would be great to take us back to the late 70s/early 80s when the unions tried their best to strangle the life out of the U.K.

Corbyn is so out of his depth it's laughable. All this time and effort, from his anti British, left wing support group, Momentum is pie in the sky, don't they realise that Labour will never be elected thanks to the SNP owning Scotland, falling support in Wales and the north of England and virtually no seats in the south apart from London which makes no difference to a democratic vote as BREXIT proved!

Crack on comrades LOL

Laughable? Most of his policy promises are spot on though. At least the bloke seems to care about the people.

I agree he is unelectable, but I wouldnt mock too much. It wouldnt take much for the momentum to swing.

And lets be honest, Labour has lost support in the north to Racist c unts, not the tories. And that ones substantially more laughable.

The jokes on us in the north.

All Brexit proved is the country is full of thick racisit cu.nts. .

Yh we are going to stop all this immigration and give 350million to the NHS .Like fuck u are... lying set of bastads

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I voted to leave. I'm not racist.

You really need to get over the result and live with it, calling people racist who aren't just because they democratically voted in a national referendum really doesn't wash anymore.

Back to Corbyn..... I like some of his policies, but it's like saying to someone build me a plane to fly around the world, you want someone who can convince you they know how to actually build the thing not just sell you the concept. You have to ask can this person deliver or does he just have a vision and the blueprints will follow.

His speech was cringeworthy. Especially when tried to angrily raise his voice when he said "we will fight the tories".

They are full of bluff and fake anger. The comments and faces john mcdonnell pulls have me in stitches. He is almost gurning.

And he loves telling us all how angry he is. Get over yourself you fanny.

And when they stood on the stage singing the red flag with their right arm in the air was so bad they should have been arrested.

They couldnt be more left wing if they were called peter barnes.

He should heed Roosevelts advice...."talk quietly and carry a big stick"