Changes for Tuesday Night ?

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:31 pm

Agree with Woods for Gray, that run to keep the ball in we won the penalty from was great to see, also Gray looks tired yawn1

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:53 pm

Play exactly the same team until next time we lose.
If they all stay through the summer that is.

RAY52 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:36 pm **Posts:** 932

Ducky or Richards for Magnay

HonestPoolie · **Joined:** Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:46 pm **Posts:** 663

I'd rest Gray and start Woods. I think yesterday was probably his worst game since he came in but he is a young lad not use to playing every week so its all a learning curve for him and I think giving him a rest will do him more good.

As for Ducky, he's only played 60 minutes for the reserves and probably needs a couple more run outs for the reserves before he is in the first team picture.

Fetish_Bob · **Posted:** Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:26 pm

Who would change with next season in mind ? Gray would be an ideal opportunity, simply because Hignett knows he won't be here next season. Maybe look at some,just to see what they have to offer.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

I think we should try our damnedest to get him and Jackson here next season.

Jackson has actually got better since Rob Jones arrived and he was already playing very well but his response to someone threatening his place speaks volumes about the lad.

Fetish_Bob · **Posted:** Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:46 pm

I would love him to be here next season, agree he probably wouldn't break into the Palace first team yet but think palace would be looking to get him to a higher level then league 2,nothing more than an opinion.

I do think Hignett needs to look at some of the fringe players for a few games (3 or 4) to see if they can cut it next season if needed. For example Nelson Addy, Oyenuga, even Oates starting. I'm not advocating any of them. but Hignett said on Pools world if he could pick all players for team/ bench he would so obviously they're all training well. But can they step up if needed ? Now is good time to find out. There some that hopefully will be released, we all can name some. but the only one(s) that matter are Hignett and Fleming.

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:38 pm

Fetish_Bob wrote:

I would love him to be here next season, agree he probably wouldn't break into the Palace first team yet but think palace would be looking to get him to a higher level then league 2,nothing more than an opinion.

I do think Hignett needs to look at some of the fringe players for a few games (3 or 4) to see if they can cut it next season if needed. For example Nelson Addy, Oyenuga, even Oates starting. I'm not advocating any of them. but Hignett said on Pools world if he could pick all players for team/ bench he would so obviously they're all training well. But can they step up if needed ? Now is good time to find out. There some that hopefully will be released, we all can name some. but the only one(s) that matter are Hignett and Fleming.

Oyenuga shouldn`t be allowed to play subuteo, let alone the first team, he is dreadful, I would play chip before him.

The Bishop · **Posted:** Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:21 pm

monkeybutt wrote:

Oyenuga shouldn`t be allowed to play subuteo, let alone the first team, he is dreadful, I would play chip before him.

Did you mean Subbuteo Mr Butt? :confusion-confused:

Sorry/ish to be a Pedant! :character-kermit:

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:01 pm

I'd like to see Oates given another run in the team before the end of the season, thought he had a few decent games last year.

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:30 pm

The Bishop wrote:

monkeybutt wrote:

Oyenuga shouldn`t be allowed to play subuteo, let alone the first team, he is dreadful, I would play chip before him.

Did you mean Subbuteo Mr Butt? :confusion-confused:

Sorry/ish to be a Pedant! :character-kermit:

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

It's all guesswork as far as which of the current loan players might be here next season. I'd be very happy if Coxall broke open the piggy bank to buy Jackson. A season long loan might be an option for Luke James - MacAnthony's wounded pride alone would probably make him ask for silly money for a straight buy back.

I honestly can't see Gray being here next season - if he still figures in Palace's plans they will want to move him up a division or two for his next loan spell.

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:03 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

If James keeps failing to score then one suspects a cheeky bid may be all it takes to get him.

Agree about the Posh chairman having a massive ego, he's also a money grabbing so and so, and a six figure offer may be enough to persuade him to part with a player who couldn't get into their first team, and then couldn't get in Bradfords.

if you had a 100k, would you buy him?

Is he not only in the team because we have nobody else decent enough?

Chesssington · **Joined:** Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:36 pm **Posts:** 900

monkeybutt wrote:

Chip Fireball wrote:

If James keeps failing to score then one suspects a cheeky bid may be all it takes to get him.

Agree about the Posh chairman having a massive ego, he's also a money grabbing so and so, and a six figure offer may be enough to persuade him to part with a player who couldn't get into their first team, and then couldn't get in Bradfords.

if you had a 100k, would you buy him?

Is he not only in the team because we have nobody else decent enough?

I would, We are on a fantastic run where we haven't been outstanding in all the games and yet ground out results where needed. exactly what the team has needed for the past 10 years. We should be adding quality to what we have, not looking to replace what we have in terms of the 11 players that have turned the season around. Appreciate its all hypothetical.

Pitlad · **Joined:** Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:43 pm **Posts:** 230

If Pools had a hundred grand to spend it must surely be used to try and seal a deal for Jackson.
I wouldn't pay money for Luke James however I would have him on a season long loan if possible. If not It would not be too difficult to replace him, although his work rate is excellent he does not score goals.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:11 pm

could be wrong, but I thought Jackson was out of contract at the end of the season. Remember something about Mowbray showing an interest at Coventry too.

No idea where I remember this from like...

millhouseseats · **Joined:** Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:00 pm **Posts:** 34

misterb2001 wrote:

could be wrong, but I thought Jackson was out of contract at the end of the season. Remember something about Mowbray showing an interest at Coventry too.

No idea where I remember this from like...

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/ ... k-10319747

Pitlad · **Joined:** Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:43 pm **Posts:** 230

MadJohn wrote:

I'd happily see James back. It's misleading to say he doesn't score goals. He scored plenty for us while still a teenager. He's still only 21 and while he's the goals have dried up he's performing a different role for us this time. He's still a quality player.

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In the last 2 years he has scored 1 in 32 for peterborough, 0 in 9 for Bradford and 0 in 12 for Pools so therefore I don't think its misleading at all to say he doesn't score goals. Bradley Fewster has scored 7 in 18 so far for a struggling York team on loan from Boro. Would he not be a better option for next year?

I don't think you'd find many teams willing to pay money for Luke with his current goal scoring record. I'm not having a go at the lad as I think his work rate is fantastic, I'm just pointing out there are other options.

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:50 pm

Pitlad wrote:

MadJohn wrote:

I'd happily see James back. It's misleading to say he doesn't score goals. He scored plenty for us while still a teenager. He's still only 21 and while he's the goals have dried up he's performing a different role for us this time. He's still a quality player.

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In the last 2 years he has scored 1 in 32 for peterborough, 0 in 9 for Bradford and 0 in 12 for Pools so therefore I don't think its misleading at all to say he doesn't score goals. Bradley Fewster has scored 7 in 18 so far for a struggling York team on loan from Boro. Would he not be a better option for next year?

I don't think you'd find many teams willing to pay money for Luke with his current goal scoring record. I'm not having a go at the lad as I think his work rate is fantastic, I'm just pointing out there are other options.

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alibarthez · **Joined:** Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:06 pm **Posts:** 1072

I would also have Luke back in a flash. He offers so much to the team in every game. He is on a different level to Bingham for instance. He is playing out of position now for the greater good of the team. No question Jackson would be a long term asset but probably move up a notch like Burgess and Baldwin.

Brian Honour's Left Foot · **Posted:** Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:54 pm

Fetish_Bob wrote:

Who would change with next season in mind ? Gray would be an ideal opportunity, simply because Hignett knows he won't be here next season. Maybe look at some,just to see what they have to offer.

Totally agree Bob. How can Hignett know what he's got unless he's given them a few goes?

I'd love to keep the likes of Jackson and Gray but we should work on the basis that we may lose them and test others - also, I remember similar discussions about Harrison - one of our best players last season.......

And they do need a few games to show how good or shite they are........

Brian Honour's Left Foot · **Posted:** Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:54 pm

Fetish_Bob wrote:

Who would change with next season in mind ? Gray would be an ideal opportunity, simply because Hignett knows he won't be here next season. Maybe look at some,just to see what they have to offer.

Totally agree Bob. How can Hignett know what he's got unless he's given them a few goes?

I'd love to keep the likes of Jackson and Gray but we should work on the basis that we may lose them and test others - also, I remember similar discussions about Harrison - one of our best players last season.......

And they do need a few games to show how good or shite they are........

Jeff · **Joined:** Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:43 pm **Posts:** 59

I thought we needed to change it after the Wimbledon game then we went and well beat orient let's hope we do the same to Carlisle Tuesday night

Brian Honour's Left Foot · **Posted:** Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:21 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

I would imagine Hignett has seen us playing while Moore was in charge, in fact I know that he has. He will also have been watching the Reserve games.

Lets be honest here, outside the starting eleven, how many players have we actually got that you would want him to keep for next season ? Here's the list in full :

Worley
Harrison
Walker
Bingham
Oyenuga
Nelson- Addy
Bartlett
Woods
Oates
Fenwick
Richards
Dan Jones
Duckworth
Nearney
Smith
Green
Laurent
Rob Jones
Denton

That's 19 players by my reckoning, and about 12 of them he doesn't really need to see in my opinion cos they are surplus to requirements, and I wouldn't bat an eyelid if they went tomorrow.

Lets face it if he wants to build a squad capable of finishing in the top 7 the majority of that lot would need to be out the door. Harsh, but true.

Or is there an argument that, at last - with good coaching - we have some depth?
Bartlett - hasn't let us down
Rob Jones - awesome at Barnet
Laurent - not seen him
Harrison - was good, what's gone wrong?
And you could argue the same for Bingham and Walker
Duckworth - a good squad player
Dan Jones - as Ducky
Oates - flatters to deceive?
Woods - well, I rate him - as did most at the end of last season!

Is our glass half full?

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

If Hignett wants to put his own stamp on the squad as much as I agree with your comments I don't think we can afford to retain all of those.

Chesssington · **Joined:** Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:36 pm **Posts:** 900

Hear what you are saying re duckworth and henderson but having seen the reserves last week, don't forget Josh nearney aswell who I as was pleasantly surprised with and also won't be on too much money.

Together with magnay, thats 4 right backs. You can never have enough I guess

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Chip Fireball wrote:

Jackson may find himself in a similar situation to a lot of other Boro lads, Christian Burgess included, not good enough for their first team, but good enough to have a decent career in the lower leagues.

It's been clear from the outset he is more than good enough to hold his own at this level, and there is a fair chance somebody in League One or Two will pick him up either in the Summer or certainly at some point in the following 12 months.

Clear from the outset he was a good player yes but I recall some labelling him not good enough after 2 games.

Would love it if we could get him permanent, im guessing he is from the area?

chunky1988 · **Joined:** Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:33 pm **Posts:** 1066

can't believe its even being discussed about only keeping 1 of richards and duckworth.....correct only 1 should be kept, but it's obvious who it should be. duckworth has been our best player at numerous times for spells during his time here and could still easily push magnay to be first choice.

i'd be trying to sort out gray, james and jackson now. Jackson I think we have most chance of signing permanently if we show enough ambition, james I imagine on loan would be viable again. Unsure on gray but if we tried our hardest early doors maybe he'd come back; doubt he is getting into their team

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

Chip Fireball wrote:

As I said I'd get shot of the vast majority if contracts allow.

Only really be a couple of tough choices for me, don't think we need both Duckworth and Richards. Duckworth has the most potential, but be harsh on Richards who wont be on much money and hasn't really let the side down when called upon.

Woods is a good back up player, so I'd keep him, Brad Walker, there is clearly a footballer in there but not sure if Hignett can reach in and unlock the talent. He would be one I'd be in two minds about, likewise Bingham who looked a good player in a bad side earlier in the season and does have a lot of pace.

Be some easy decisions on who to release as well if they are out of contract, Worley, Harrison, Nelson Addy, Oyenuga, Oates, Fenwick.

Concurring. It's a safe bet that the players who are regularly making the bench are the ones most likely to be kept on, so Oates might be safe (especially if he's got a two year contract). I'd like to see Laurent play a couple of games before the end of the season - he still seems to be thereabouts in the manager's thinking.

The likes of Fenwick and Harrison are done here. Hignett and Fleming obviously don't see them as part of a squad capable of going for promotion. Apart from Rob Jones, who looks likely to be signed up for a year to help get us out of the division, the main question now is - could such and such a player cut it in League One?

Feel a bit sorry for Harrison, who always puts a shift in. Fenwick spends too much time in a match twisting or on his backside (contrast with Billy Painter) and hasn't developed his all round game. One of these days Pools might get a real prospect out of the Northern League, but Fenwick isn't it.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

I wouldnt be releasing Oates just yet even if he was out of contract but the others I agree with.

dstanley · **Joined:** Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:15 pm **Posts:** 677

Chesssington wrote:

monkeybutt wrote:

Chip Fireball wrote:

If James keeps failing to score then one suspects a cheeky bid may be all it takes to get him.

Agree about the Posh chairman having a massive ego, he's also a money grabbing so and so, and a six figure offer may be enough to persuade him to part with a player who couldn't get into their first team, and then couldn't get in Bradfords.

if you had a 100k, would you buy him?

Is he not only in the team because we have nobody else decent enough?

I would, We are on a fantastic run where we haven't been outstanding in all the games and yet ground out results where needed. exactly what the team has needed for the past 10 years. We should be adding quality to what we have, not looking to replace what we have in terms of the 11 players that have turned the season around. Appreciate its all hypothetical.

Spot on Chessington!
Play well and win; have an indifferent match but grind out a result; that is how teams get promoted.
Add a bit of quality and things could be much brighter next season. We live in hope.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

You havent bumped your "were doomed" post and said "i told you so" for a while dstanley.

Lord_of_Stranton · **Joined:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:48 pm **Posts:** 1852

Changes for Tuesday Night?

Well there's been one - and it's forced upon us. Nathan Thomas has a poorly tummy.

Pools: Carson, Magnay, Bates, Jackson, Carroll, Featherstone, Hawkins, Gray, James, Paynter, Oates.
Subs: Bartlett, Harrison, Richards, R Jones, Laurent, Walker, Bingham.

ed-t-ball · **Posted:** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:11 pm

What's happened to the BBC web page can they not be bothered to do the usual coverage of the games in Lge 2?

ed-t-ball · **Posted:** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:15 pm

Full bloody blow by blow coverage of some bloody Spanish teams but not the League games.
Bastard media.

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