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 Post subject: Club culture
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:51 am 
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The whole culture at the club is something that must change, it's almost as if the staff at the club have accepted that relegation fodder is acceptable. Mark Simpson seems overly optimistic every time he interviews moore, (I am sure mark is excellent at his job however), moore repeats the same thing every interview, the fitness coach plays keepy ups with the subs at half time, the players really don't seem to care less but will be quick to tweet when they have won. Why sam collins has not been replaced or even a new coaching staff employed is beyond me, there will be loads of coaches readily available. We're 21st, the highest we can finish if we avoid relegation is probably 19th, how does that equate to even a remotely acceptable season


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 Post subject: Re: Club culture
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:52 am 
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We may have new owners and chairman but the ghost of the former regime still stalks the corridors at the Vic.
Their laboriously slow reaction to crises always resulted in the manager getting the bullet, sometimes justified, sometimes not, but no one ever seemed to look elsewhere for the cause. Towards the end of the prevous regime we were sacking them left, right and centre but nothing really changed.
A bit like changing the Captain of a ship that was in crisis but never looking at the rest of the crew to see what their part had been in the problem...just a knee jerk crisis solver that solved nothing.
However, was it a case of picking a manager to fit the club...?
Till we select a manager who can bring in their own backroom coaching staff, we're destined to prolong this long running farce indefinitely.
Change is always resisted, but that's what happens at football clubs when failure visits and to imagine you can change thngs by tweaking here and there and sacking the next managerial victim is long expired.
When Moore goes, the rest go too or nothing will ever change.

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 Post subject: Re: Club culture
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:05 pm 
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Bang on Snowy!! Whilst the same person selects managers and picks new owners plus employs all the back room staff etc things will not change.

I remember when Neale Cooper came back second time he was asked something like 'what was his working brief and what attracted him to come back'. His answer was that he hadn't discussed expectations, budgets etc but he came back because he loved the club. Point of the anecdote is that is highlights the lack of professionalism behind the scenes that still exists


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 Post subject: Re: Club culture
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:06 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Club culture
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:09 pm 
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Until Green and his cronies have left the building nothing will change. Coxall is just the front window dressing for the same old shite we've witnessed over the last several seasons.


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 Post subject: Re: Club culture
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:37 pm 
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Moved out of the town quite a few years ago now, when I do head back I always head to the Vic, whether for a game or just to have a look. Its shocking how poor it has looked on the last few occasions. Seemingly as bad a state as when Gibson ran the show - when Hornsey took over, things changed, not overnight, but there was a bit of pride in the club - he had the ground brought up to scratch, the pitch looked smart - it felt like something big had happened.

The current state suggests a clean sweep is needed - we seem to have a CEO who is willing to take a wage, but do little else to earn it. Is the current chairman unwilling or unable to shift him? Something about the club stinks, has done for years - nothing will change until the odious cretin and his cronies fuck off....


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 Post subject: Re: Club culture
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:48 pm 
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A ceo who has been involved in two dodgy takeovers and a third one where the owners motives are still in question as to whether they have any money whatsoever and what's happening with the 250000 cup money? Will that just disappear once tommorow has come and gone? A ceo or manager who seems incapable of attracting any sort of decent player to the club though this is no doubt down to the peanuts we probobly offer to players. Only at pools could this guy still be in a job.


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 Post subject: Re: Club culture
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:30 pm 
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And when Moore goes we will have Collins in charge! Be careful what you wish for the clean sweep we desperately need will never happen. The other valid point is that we have always been not very good well over the 35yrs I have followed them anyway. Where not very flash & we haven't the cash here at Hartlepool.......still a very valid verse!

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 Post subject: Re: Club culture
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:53 am 
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Not letting Phil Brown bring his own backroom staff in has proved to be a costly mistake.
A good experienced manager whos doing a decent job at Southend and probably thinking i had a lucky escape knocking back that Hartlepool job.


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 Post subject: Re: Club culture
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:26 am 
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I guess im alone but I always kinda liked the line ups that Collins put out when he has taken charge for games.

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 Post subject: Re: Club culture
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:15 am 
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Collins had faith in our younger talented players.
Moore only uses them in an emergency.


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 Post subject: Re: Club culture
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:25 am 
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Moore only uses them in an emergency.


So why isn't he using them now?!


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