Yea but Jeremy Corbyn won tho

89 minutes of hard graft flushed down the bog.

Didn't deserve to lose

If you dont take your chances and get beat, you deserve to lose.

bingham can run fast but can do nothing else.

The whole team and squad is unbalanced, who gets the blame for that? The best manager in the league?

Absolutely fed up. In fact I'm fucking raging.

Let's book in for another relegation fight. How many sodding defeats on the bounce now? Cambridge at home next week? Fucking magic.

Three fortuitous victories, followed by three gut-wrenching defeats makes the season look a little unsure at this point. It is early days, but the sheer lack of strength through the core of the team is fast becoming an issue. There is little actually manifesting up top after good build up play, and as people have said for years, it's no good providing if there's no production at the end...

It's going to be a very inconsistent and frustrating season. But it will surely be an improvement on the last and that's all we can ask...isn't it?

Slowly dropping back down that table, out of the top half now

we can't defend we can't score = Relegation Moore OUT

Moore can't be far from starting to receive criticism.

The squad is massively unbalanced, he had a strange reluctance to use any subs, and still to this point don't think he knows his strongest line up. Signed people like kudus who he clearly has either never seen or doesn't actually rate and says stuff like Bingham best finisher at club.

Best finisher at the club is currently getting spelks in his arse and it's not far from a disgrace he can't get into the starting lineup. Needs to be sorted quickly cos as we have seen too many times, get into a rut and it's difficult to get out of.

You are joking, right?

The topic at the start of the other thread, Carroll, what is he? He's not a defender, his set pieces are terrible and he's not looking like a winger either.

We look better than last season but 4 league defeats in a row is not good. If we don't beat Cambridge next week and lost at Yeovil where would that leave us?

mOORE Is tactically inept.

Yes i'm serious He needs results before fan's are really calling for his head.

Moore Out....FFS .....I note not followed by who to come in. Short memories in the extreme.

I really like moore, his honesty, passion and commitment to the job. I can see what Mr cough is saying. I remember along with many others on here last season questioning moore's decisions in quite a few games before we went and won 4 in a row. It is also plausible that many fans will give him more slack because of what he did last season but I along with a good few others are starting to worry about the season ahead. The defence is fucking useless, Worley is shit, harrison looks like a different player and Carroll has yet to show me what moore and Colin's saw when scouting him and as for bates.....

Bingham looks great when he is running at defenders and but fuck me his finishing is woeful and he is far too wasteful in possession.

Keep seeing people saying we need 3 quality signings but surely that was what the summer was for.

The most worrying part of all is that we could have quite easily lost every game this season, we where very lucky early on.

Perhaps all managers, regardless of what level, should have only ten matches and if they don't get twenty points as a minimum they get the boot, should keep things interesting. Or perhaps they should have to do a season on football manager or whatever the fuck it's called now, as a pilot would do hours on the flight simulator, before they get the job

Simples, as the common people say

Said it a hundred times the players we brought in are free transfers, not deemed good enough by their previous clubs. It's all we can afford not unless the new owners 'lash the cash' which I very much doubt as they don't have any. Mid table at the very best.

Any team can go through a bad patch and sounds like we were very unlucky to lose. But we did yet again. We could and possibly should of lost two of the first three as well. We cant defend particularly great and we don't look like scoring a vast amount of goals throughout the team and probobly our best finisher is sat on the bench, not great signs. If we go out and get two or three quality players like we did the back end of last season we will be more than fine. If we don't we will struggle.

I havent seen us play this season but it does amuse me how everyone seems to think our defence is rubbish yet have only conceded 9 in 6 games. Whilst at the same time only scoring 8.

That stat suggests we are shit up front rather than in defence.

But its early days so the best thing would be for everyone to calm down

Everyone seems to think our defence is useless because everyone has probably seen how bad they are. They got ripped to shreds by Scunthorpe and Gateshead pre season. Morcambe had five or six fantastic chances first match. York battered us for forty five minutes bournmouth put four past us. Carlisle 3 other week. Yes we maybe look as though goals against wise they ain't too bad but they got away with murder first three or four games. Things may improve though there only young lads and will hopefully gel together at some point.

Hard to get a good quality team together over night if the money is not there for the manager. He has had to change a full team on freebies from teams like Mansfield and Grimsby if he gets us to mid table this year it will of been some job again. Its not like he has been allowed to go out and sign proven players with maybe the exception of paynter who has at least done it in the past.

I'm glad I wasn't one of those getting Moore tattoos

I blame the weak as piss midfield. Teams run a mock over our soft centre. Tshibola void hasn't been filled.

Yeah like gordon Watson Marco gabbiadini john mcphail were total disasters weren't they? Its the managers job not to bring injury prone or past it losers to the club.

I take your point and you certainly have one Moore has signed 14 players and lets be honest we now need more. He hasn't improved the midfield one bit this summer. I guess you can look at it from both points of view and could also say bingham couldn't get his game for one reason or another for Mansfield a team slightly better than us. Carson player of the season for relegated Cheltenham and magnay in a conference side. Its a southern based division this year and id be very surprised if we can get anywhere near the wages orient pompey Cambridge Northampton etc pay but like you say no reason why we shouldn't be competing with most others in the league. Moore has had a massive rebuilding job to do I'm sure the next win is not too far away.

I think we needed revolution after last seasons near disaster. We didn't just flirt with relegation to oblivion, but proper got in there and shagged it only to pull out at the last minute. Even then we stuck it back in a couple of times and had another go.

Coupled with a number of seasons of dire squad retention and a complete lack of ambition in transfer market meant the whole squad needed ripping up and starting again. And to be fair it is what most of us wanted to happen so we were always going to see a lot of new players coming in.

Due to the level we are at financially it means gambling on players and not all of them will come off, but as Chip says we have signed some genuine quality in Carson, Harrion last year, Carroll will come good, Magnay is very good, Paynter has very good experience and decent ability and Bingham has a lot of potential. The next stage is then fixing the holes created when some of the newer players don't quite fit or work out as planned or hoped.

Morecombe haven't spent fortunes but they have recruited well and have recruited players to fit Bentley's tactics and prefered formation, and it works. Exeter have evolved a very tidy squad of players under Tisdale over the last few years and have reinvested some of the money from the Matt Grimes money, like we didn't with the Baldwin and James cash. Similarly Wycombe have evolved a very good squad with nowt to spend and Mansfield have somehow turned it around with a couple of decent signings.

There are however one or two clubs at our level who are spunking money all over like Portsmouth, Luton, Orient, Plymouth, Notts County, Northampton and to an extent Cambridge so it's not such a level playing field as we might think.

The issue for me is we lack experience in defence and midfield, and look one paced all over the side with one or two exceptions. Therefore we will need to see the revolution continue and will need more investment. We are starting from a low base in terms of squad quality and depth with the utter dross we have had in the permanent squad for the last 2 or 3 years.

We need an experienced hard bastard central defender to bring the best out of the obviously talented Harrison. Mirfin would be great but otherwise someone like him. Harry Worley for me is a million miles away and allows people to go passed him way to easily and just doesn't get tight enough. Plus he runs like he's towing a van and has the turning circle of a barge, oh and for someone who is 7 ft tall gets beat in the air too much. Other than that though....

With a proper defensive General as we have seen in Collins, Nelson, Strodder, Mick Smith, Monty McPhail etc we might just see Duckworth, Harrison, Jones and Carroll come good and flourish.

Midfield is the other area we need to improve as we have no pace and too many players who do the same job. In my dream we need a player with the same drive and eye for goal as a young Tommy Miller and a hard as nails goalscoring tiger like Mark Tinkler partnered with a swarve, skillful playmaker such as Paul Stephenson to sit in and open up defenses and retain possesion.

Moore also needs to stop fucking about and play a system that fits the players we have and gets the best out of the squad we have. Fenwick is being wasted and Woods and Featherstone are too similar so it's one or t'uther, and Carroll up front in a 4-3-3????

Play 5-3-2 with Carroll and Duckers/Halliday as wingback's with Harrison, Boyce and Jones as central 3, play Woods and Walker, or one of the many midfielders we are trying to get, with Magnay holding and then 2 of Fenwick, Paynter or Bingham in a front 2

To be honest I am getting a little tired now of reading how we are trying to bring people in and forever missing out, if we are struggling so much then change our scouts or look somewhere else. Oh and I am also weary of seeing posts on here of people alluding to us bringing in someone by people who pretend to know something and don't name the player they have heard about. It's not clever and just name names please.

Someone wrote on a thread this week we'd be signing someone in midfield and said something like we'll be amazed or surprised by who it was, with all the mystery of a Jeffrey archer novel. It's not big or clever.

Any way over to you Mr Moore to sort it out before we get into a rut. Next 3 are winnable against Cambridge (H), Yeovil (A) and Bristol (H) before Luton (H) Northampton and Dagenham (A). However, if we don't address the weaknesses in the squad and find a systerm that works this run could become very messy indeed

I know this is a bit of a sunday morning rant, and I don't know why I quoted Chip other than for a bit of context to my rant but here it is anyway. I'm 44 years old and screamed in total frustration, anger, rage, disappointment when that goal went in yesterday cos I knew we would throw it away as soon as Bingham missed the penner. I was like a spoiled fucking child for a couple of hours afterwards and it was unedifying. It's the predictability of us being so disappointing that is hard to take sometimes, but then that is what supporting Pools is all about, and it'll make the good times feel even better.

Could be worse I could be a plastic Chelsea fan or one of them Liverpool fans who started supporting them in the late 80's thinking they'd be associated with glory for years, or a Man Utd or plastic Arsenal fan

^ This well said Poolietim

Correct Chip. Good bit of perspective there.

If Bingham's shot vs Carlisle goes in and it's 2-0 to us, and he scores the penalty yesterday and we win we'd be on 15 pts and in the top 4 feeling a whole lot better.

Frustration is we didn't and we arent, but we are starting from a much lower base than others around us after the previous owners basically had us nil by mouth, booking the undertaker and photographing our stuff ready to go on ebay.

Moore has worked miracles and I wouldn't want anyone else managing us at this time

I don't think Moore can be blamed for the chopping and changing of the team too much.

After just 10 games our injury list has included Jones, Worley (x2), Bates(x2?), Duckworth, Magnay, Woods and Paynter. Add in Carson, Walker and now possibly Bingham, and we have been very unlucky with injuries so far. Plus the Magnay red card. I would guess that, apart from the first 2 or 3 games, it hasn't been possible for Ronnie to pick the same starting line up 2 games running, purely down to injuries and suspensions. It does go to show what having a settled 11 can do for you though.

I would certainly question Ronnie's tactics though. Especially changing from Plan A to Plan B or vice versa. Apart from the Sheff Utd game, where the change certainly improved us, I would say that numerous games (Carlisle in particular) were crying out for a change that didn't come.

I think his man management (The Duckworth fiasco aside) has been brilliant. I also think the coaching has been good. You can certainly see massive areas of improvement in our general build up play. It is purely the on-the-day decisions that are made are, IMO, our downfall so far.

Whatever the reasons for the last 4 games we gunna lose at least 500 pay on the day fans v Cambridge.
Can only see them returning if we can attract some decent Loanies like last season in Mirfin n Tishbola.
i really do believe the loan window will make or break our season now!