There are rules in combat. Simple

Do I really need to answer this?

I am not sure how my points are in any way related to your, franky, stupid question.

I want to live in a peaceful world.

There is more than a compelling argument that says the UK is culpible for many of the threats out there today.

But to answer your question:

Of course not.

But there again, I am also not that sympathetic to any western folk actually deciding to go out there to do aid work. I think they are bonkers.

But thera again, again. I think anyone joining the armed forces now is also bonkers.

Opinions eh?

Bully boy tactics ? What using the word daft ?

A couple of hours ago you were on about how the government should be hoying folk in jail for expressing an opinion because you dont agree with them. Bit hypocritical IMHO.

Grabec, people like these two only ever plot to kill/murder innocent people, I fail to see how it could be illegal to take out these two legitimate targets.
The one from Cardiff uses social media to boast of killing prisoners, beheadings etc. and glorifies it for all to see.

I don't see how anyone thinks scum like this should have any legal rights, especially in the country they left behind and were actively planning to commit atrocities in.

The UK's softly softly approach to extremists in this country is laughable, in my opinion our laws just make it easier for evil bastards like them to peddle their twisted views and makes it almost impossible for our authorities to do anything about it. Our country is now a breeding ground for these kind of people.

In short, if killing them has saved one innocent person's life over here then it's a thumbs up from me, bollocks to anyone who gets upset over the legal rights of terrorists, British or not.

I'm twisting fuck all. I said its daft to suggest the UK governement has a softly softly approach to terrorism. That is my opinion and its based on a number of factors which I have detailed.

You asked me for examples of the softly softly approach, I gave you them. You chose not to respond

You have then suggested that for me to say I think its daft I am insulting you and bullying you. Which is not only also daft in my opinion, but its also a tad hypocritical when you mention it as the same time as accusing me of having my head up my arse.

I said you have bullied other people over the years, that's your style. You'll never fucking bully me mate!

Anyway, can't be fucking arsed with you any more, you bore me. I'm off to bed.

A quick question for a few of you's on here and answer it honestly

Jihad John has been spotted 100% in a vehicle travelling in a car and is followed by a eye in the sky he is only a few miles from a big town heading towards it would you let a drone take him out or just let him get to the town and disappear or try and arrest him as he gets to the town risking a gun battle where soldiers/innocent people could be killed ???

What you posted was this :

Ok, the wankers who murdered innocent UK citizens on 7/7, Lee Rigby's murderers, all of them on MI5's radar but not allowed to be hauled in because of the legal ramifications. Chowdhary, Hamza and the two hundred or so extremists demonstrating in London against the British Army, calling for them to be murdered/beheaded, all terrorist sympathisers, another example of soft touch UK.

I'm struggling to see how that constitutes the security services and the UK governemnt being a soft touch.

Are you suggesting that they should detain anyone and everyone " on their radar " in jail indefinitely, even if they haven't actually committed a crime, and contrary to the laws of the land ? Where do you start, where do you stop ? What happens when the person on their radar happens to be someone completely innocent and they shoot him dead on a tube train in broad daylight ?

Do you get them to go round arresting all the EDL nutjobs in case they do a Zack Davies and stab an Indian bloke in Tescos ?

Derrick Bird, Raoul Moat, all these fuckers torturing and killing their bairns, usually " known to social services " do we lock them up an all- everyone who potentially looks like they might kill someone ?

As for people " not allowed to be hauled in because of the legal ramifications " how come theres so many fuckers been brought to justice and sentenced for alleged terrorist plots, how come people have been through the courts for posting hateful messages supporting those who killed Lee Rigby ?

Nobody breaking the law " is not allowed to be hauled in " and if you think that's the case then words fail me.

You have answered my question with a question Colonel

He stops of for a ham sandwich at a petrol station 50miles away from a town and is spotted by a local who informs our boys who inform the drone man who sends a drone up so would you take him out before he reaches the town its a simple enough question

You ended up defeating your own argument there I'm afraid.

The difference between the UK and the place you mention is that we live in a Western democracy with laws, where generally speaking the Government and its agents cannot lock you up, unless they have evidence you have broken the law. If that is the case you will appear in court where you will be presumed innocent until proven otherwise at the end of a fair trail. Its sometimes referred to as a civilised society.

If you dont want to live in a country like that because you think its a soft touch, then knock yourself out and go and live in Syria or Basra, or wherever.

The day we start acting like them, and start locking up anyone who says stuff in the street we might not agree with, or who hasnt broken the law, is the day we lose any moral right we have to intervene anywhere.

Bollox mate. They are protected by the same laws we demand for ourselves.

Where have I said we we should just accept the extremists views and turn a blind eye to it ? Coming out with playground insults like " lefty do gooders " is embarrasing.

So is labelling other people's opinions as daft, just because they're different to yours.

Yes in an ideal world the Governement would wave a magic wand, and immediately remove all the bad people from society, all the potential terrorists, all the potential murderers and rapists, and serial killers, and paedophiles, and everyone who has ever threatened to kill their wives and husbands. While they are at it they could also lock up anyone who has ever sang songs proclaiming Harry Roberts is a friend, or glorifying Derrick Bird or Raoul Moat, because they might be potential killers as well.

Typical Chip retort, bring factors into the argument that have no bearing on the discussion. I'm talking about extremists that have planned or are actively planning harm to innocent people. Please explain what a "potential" rapist or paedophile is and how we can spot them.


Thats your solution, just lock up everyone who might potentially be dangerous, just to be on the safe side, because at least then nobody could ever call you a soft touch.

Not everyone, just the extremists peddling their bile and hatred towards the very country that they live in and the armed forces that protect them, as mentioned previously


Theres more chance of you being killed by a bee in Hartlepool than a terrorist, so maybe we should lock up them an all.

Phew that's a relief, knowing that you have your finger on the pulse and know when and where they'll strike next.

The threat to us from terrorists in the UK is minimal

Try telling that to the families of the 7/7 bombings victims or Lee Rigby's relatives and colleagues.

back at you.

Same bloke has 10 tonne of semtex attached to him. He reaches the outskirts of the town, and needs taking out. The only way to do it is blow him up. Hundreds might die. But it will save thousands. Do you sacrifice the hundred innocent people?

Because without controls and rules you allow the government and rmy to make these choices.

A quick question for a few of you's on here and answer it honestly

Jihad John has been spotted 100% in a vehicle travelling in a car and is followed by a eye in the sky he is only a few miles from a big town heading towards it would you let a drone take him out or just let him get to the town and disappear or try and arrest him as he gets to the town risking a gun battle where soldiers/innocent people could be killed ???

Quick answer....take him out...no debating here!