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 Post subject: Captaincy
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:59 am 
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Assuming that Flinders and Austin are leaving the club, who will become our captain next season?

I can't see it being given back to Bates, Harrison maybe but he still seems young at 21.


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:05 am 
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I suggest Harrison will be high on the list, will depend if Moore would rather he just concentrates on defending or thinks he is up to taking captaincy on board and it not affecting his play.

Wouldnt surprise me if Worley or Magnay took it to be honest with Harrison as vice captain or whatever they call it.

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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:18 am 
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Ronnie will just have a shouting contest and the loudest one gets to be captain. He has practically said as much.

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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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I watched the 10 minute video of Carson answering questions for the Cheltenham website yesterday, he mentioned being a captain about half a million times.

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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:35 pm 
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Magnay's interview sounded to me like he was talking himself up for it.


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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Featherstone or Woods?


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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Woods for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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The J Dizzle wrote:
Featherstone or Woods?



Sounds like a game akin to Stone, paper, scissors :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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Woods for me.

So you've got Wood?

First time in a long time it's been a difficult choice for the right reasons. I'd give it to Harrison or Woods based on last season but some experienced players with the right attributes have come in like Magnay and Wall-E. Someone mentioned Carson has experience of being captain, it might have been Carson himself!
Can only be a good thing to have plenty of leaders on the pitch, it was mentioned numerous times last year the players don't get on each others backs when they make mistakes.

I'd go for Woods with Harrison as vice captain, mainly because the two have been here a while already and shown their commitment to the cause.


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:36 pm 
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Does it really matter who shakes hands and calls heads or tails at the start of the match? Far to much importance is placed on who captains a football team. You can be a leader with or without an arm band. I can see Harrison getting the captaincy though.


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:44 pm 
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Harrison away at Newport showed it's a tad early for him as captain IMO.


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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Woods for me. In his interviews comes across very well. When he broke his leg Moore said he'll be captain in future years so I would guess him. Knows the two new lads well to


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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Agree I think it's too soon for Harrison. I think Magnay could be a good appointment but from what he's said he will be a big character and have his say anyway so perhaps give it to someone else.

Moore did say Woods would be a future captain for the club so I'd go for him.


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:16 pm 
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Let's hope it's someone who doesn't care about upsetting teammates if required , too soon for Harrison a bit hot headed, Ron will get it right a hard decision though


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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not another keeper as captain please :snooty:


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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Without reading too much into it, Fenwick has called Harrison "skip" on facebook earlier, as much as I rate Harrison as a player, I don't think he's quite ready for captain material.

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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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I personally think Harrison is too young, definitely future captain material but then I don't work with him day in and day out, I have never played or managed the game at a professional level and so have 100% confidence that RM will make the right choice.


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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I really don't get this feeling that Harrison is 'not ready to be captain' What about the role is beyond him? The way he plays is 100% captain material and you can hardly point to ill discipline he's never to my knowledge been sent off. One game he might have been taken off before he was but he's a fully committed centre back it stands to reason that at some point he will see red. I'm not sure how this makes him not ready to choose heads or tails and shake hands at the start of the match. He's certainly a leader and doesn't need an armband to display those qualities but I'd say he's the outstanding candidate for the captaincy without a doubt.


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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PJPoolie wrote:
I really don't get this feeling that Harrison is 'not ready to be captain' What about the role is beyond him? The way he plays is 100% captain material and you can hardly point to ill discipline he's never to my knowledge been sent off. One game he might have been taken off before he was but he's a fully committed centre back it stands to reason that at some point he will see red. I'm not sure how this makes him not ready to choose heads or tails and shake hands at the start of the match. He's certainly a leader and doesn't need an armband to display those qualities but I'd say he's the outstanding candidate for the captaincy without a doubt.



I think the feeling is that Harrison is only 21 and still learning the game and improving, and that it would be better to let him focus on his own game without the distraction of a captaincy.

He probably would make a capable captain, but I'd personally rather him have a season or two to really get to grips with first team football.


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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I'm not sure how it possibly can be described as being a distraction once the game kicks you are doing no more than playing football with an arm band on!

I think he has got to grips with first team football just fine to be honest I don't see any issue in making him captain.


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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He's not just developing his on the field game though, it's all the things off it and training. Being captain is still a large responsibility and I think Harrison's game would develop better without that extra baggage. I think he could, and probably will, be a pools captain in the not so distant future, but not in his first full season as a first team footballer.


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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Plenty of players have either had the captaincy removed from them or asked for it to be changed as they felt it affected their game so clearly there is more to it than PJ thinks.

I trust Moore to get it right for all that it matters.

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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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Couldn't it be said that an extra bit of responsibility could actually benefit him and accelerate his maturing and as a pro.

He plays like a captain already he doesn't need to do anything different.

Being captain of a football team is all for show, you don't actually have make any decisions or do anything other than show the level of desire and commitment that everyone else should. He already does that!

We're building a young team as it stands we have nobody signed on over 30 so I see no problem in a young captain.


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
Plenty of players have either had the captaincy removed from them or asked for it to be changed as they felt it affected their game so clearly there is more to it than PJ thinks.

I trust Moore to get it right for all that it matters.


Name one.

People have lost the position for things that they have done on and off the field yes I can't think of an example of what you're saying.


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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I cant think of them off the top of my head but its certainly happened, Kevin Phillips always said he was chuft to be captain some games but it was too much pressure and he was glad to give it back etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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I don't get how it's any extra pressure. It's ambassadorial role more than anything, you aren't asked to do anything different on the field once the whistle blows and if you've been picked as captain I'd imagine you are already display the qualities needed anyway.

'I blame the captain' a supporter said after his team lost said nobody ever!


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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PJPoolie wrote:
I don't get how it's any extra pressure. It's ambassadorial role more than anything, you aren't asked to do anything different on the field once the whistle blows and if you've been picked as captain I'd imagine you are already display the qualities needed anyway.

'I blame the captain' a supporter said after his team lost said nobody ever!


Liam Fontaine:

"The more responsibility Fontaine assumed, the more his form suffered and he eventually gave up the captaincy in December, since when Cole Skuse, Louis Carey and Marvin Elliott have all led the team into action.

He said: “When I had the armband, I think I tried to do too much. I’m the kind of guy that wants to take responsibility, but also takes things to heart.

“I think I tried to take on too much for other people and I felt I had to try to put things right all over the pitch. Of course, it cannot be done and I began to struggle with it all."

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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:36 pm 
Ohhhh he is the poster called PJ Poolie
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PJ Poolie he love the game
Of arguing with men called Tree
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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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That is my point exactly!

He says in that article his error was trying to do anything different when you actually don't have to. It's no extra responsibility once the game kicks off you are the same as your other ten team mates. If he'd have done the same as before he was captain he'd have been fine! It's not like being captain of a cricket team when you are making decisions all of the time that directly impact on the result of the game the role entails very little.


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PJPoolie wrote:
That is my point exactly!

He says in that article his error was trying to do anything different when you actually don't have to. It's no extra responsibility once the game kicks off you are the same as your other ten team mates. If he'd have done the same as before he was captain he'd have been fine! It's not like being captain of a cricket team when you are making decisions all of the time that directly impact on the result of the game the role entails very little.


Its no extra responsibilty.

You win. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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Tree, once the game kicks off how is it any extra responsibility? How is your job different to any of the other players?

It's perfectly possible to be a leader whether you are captain or not. A captain does some formalities at the star of the game and referee might speak to you during it after that what?


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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You win.

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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
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Not arguing just asking questions.

A wins a win though :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Captaincy
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:48 pm 
Tree post a Youtube video about PJ loving an argument.


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Tree post a Youtube video about PJ loving an argument.



i dont have twitter.

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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
yloop wrote:
Tree post a Youtube video about PJ loving an argument.



i dont have twitter.


:laugh: Nice one!


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Kirk or Bligh....one will boldly lead us and the other will knock shit out of you if you don't perform.

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