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 Post subject: Tshibola
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:49 am 
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Looks to be playing with an injury to me. It's so easy to knock players when they have a couple of bad games and the vitriol thrown his way by some idiots in the mill house down right shocking. The lad had a mare last night and looked shot to bits, everyone could see that. They can be no doubting his overall contribution to our club since he arrived has been immense, given 100% virtually week in week out. His levels certainly dropped at York and last night but seriously getting on his back like that???? Ffs. ... It's to easy to forget he is only a young lad learning his trade and he needs and has earned our support


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:52 am 
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There were a few times last night he didn't know where he was meant to be/who he was meant to be marking...

I'd rest him for Luton and have him back for the last 2 games.


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:15 am 
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There was a point in the first half over the left side where he stood there arms out wide, not a bloody clue where he should be stood, was like a cry for help.

He needs a game out i reckon.

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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:32 am 
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Chip Fireball wrote:
As I said on another thread, he's playing with an injury and has been for weeks which clearly needs resting.

In addition he got a hefty whack in the first half, the combination of the two made him a virtual passenger for the last 25 minutes, not sure why he wasnt taken off.Like you say some of the abuse he was getting was unbelievable. In fact I thought the crowd generally last night, a few spells in the second half excepted, were either stone cold silent or quite hostile.

Obviously the feel good factor has very much gone and its back to normal.


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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as above- I have to agree I thought the twelfth man last night was shocking, the crowd got on everyones back last night straight from the off.
The crowd needs to support the team and encourage it, not make them more nervous.
If the unthinkable happent then the crowd will be as much to blame as anyone on the pitch.


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:36 am 
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as above- I have to agree I thought the twelfth man last night was shocking, the crowd got on everyones back last night straight from the off.
The crowd needs to support the team and encourage it, not make them more nervous.
If the unthinkable happent then the crowd will be as much to blame as anyone on the pitch.


Oh yes of course, if we go down it's definitely the fans fault!!


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:40 am 
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They weren't on everyones back from the off at all.

How about the players or the management give the fans something to help get them behind them? Be it a shot, crunching tackle, great passing move or here's a novel idea - energy and desire?

The first half lacked them all and I'm sick of watching Franks bottling challenges.

Fenwick gave more passion and desire in his first 10 minutes than the bunch of losers who started and what the fuck Dan Jones was doing all game was beyond me.

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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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I reckon Tish was one of the top 2 or 3 players on the pitch for the Southend game the other week. Haven't been able to make it to a match since so haven't seen how he's been playing but it'd be good to give the lad a rest and hope he's 100% again for the final run in. He's been class for the most part since we got him.


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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I think it took 4 minutes before I heard someone have a go.


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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The fans only got on the players back first half because there was no desire no effort no will to win.
In our position every player has to give 100% and have the bottle to make a defence splitting pass to our forwards.
Its been like watching crabs the last two games.
We can still avoid the drop but ronnie has to get the team on the attack for the last 3 games.


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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Stating that if we go down it'll be as much the fans fault is a ridiculous comment to make.

On Tshibola, he hasn't played well for 3 games now, he definitely needs a rest. It also looks like the occasion has got to some, if not all of the players. They are having to play with PRESSURE which we haven't had for most of the season and some obviously can't handle it.

On last nights game, the tactics made us out numbered in midfield. This was also the case on Saturday against York. At least Ronnie changed the tactics at half time to try and combat that before flinging Marlon on to go 4-3-3.

Three games to save this club! Up the pools.


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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I thought much of the crowds discontent last night was more because of the way we were set up rather than individual performances. 5 defenders and two deep lying midfielders was not what we needed at home in a must win game


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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I was pissed off with how much we fannied about with it at the back instead of just getting rid.

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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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The crowd respond to the players, and given such a negative and lacklustre first half its easy to see why the atmosphere was quite hostile. When Fenwick came on with a bit of bite and passion the crowd responded positively.

But I agree Tish is looking fooked, given the lack of changes/rotation in the last few games maybe a few of the players need resting.


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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After moores rousing words on twitter n the shite served up at york i expected a bit of a reaction last night.

I'd pissed about after work getting the kids minded as the mrs already had plans, inconveniencing the mother in law to mind them for an hour until she got in as i was desperate to be at this game, i wish i hadnt bothered.

The first 25 minutes passed by n the players hadnt give the crowd one single thing to shout about, franks had a header that nearly knocked the saturday club over in the cryril knowles it was that far wide.

The defence was so deep that any clearance only had hugill chasing it n franks about 30 yards away from him.

Featherstone and tish were as good as extra centre backs so we pretty much played 7 at the back in the first half.

Dan Jones looked like he was doing his best impression of a frightened mick mccarthy being scared of fuck all, and it was his hesitation that led to their goal with him missing a header.

People cant have a go at the crowd if the players arent even giving us as much as a half chance to shout about.

At half time when i seen jones n fenwick warming up i thought there is no way on earth jones n tish will come out for the second half, so then he goes n takes our best attacking full back off when we are chasing the game n leaves tish on.

Also at half time i was trying to think of things i'd done in my life that where more interesting than that first half, like the time i was stuck in traffic on the way home from a work thing in peterbrough for 3 hours needing a wee, or an episode of charmed, i'd even googled "the ending of lost" as i figured 45 minutes was about long enough for me to work out how lost ends n as much as a head fuck that is it's probably better than watching pools first 45.

I'm not anti moore, i'm just pro winning games in the most obvious way.

Last night was like 1994 again pumping balls over anthony skedd's head.

We deserve to go down if we set up like that again Saturday.

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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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Got to agree about Tish. Seems to have to do the running for everybody in midfield & if he's carrying an injury no wonder he's not hitting the heights. What's the story with Nelson Addy ? ( Think
that's his handle anyway ! ) Can't really see the point of putting him on the bench week after week if Ronnie's not going to give him a chance. Surely must be busting to get on ?


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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it was really tense last night, fans are nervous, the players are obviously nervous and similatr to York some of the players seemed a little scared to make a mistake. The players need to take responsibility for the situation - thankfully the second half was much better and by some miracle we are still out of the bottom 2.

Chip has a pont about the crowd, next saturday we all need to be on our feet and behind the team no matter what. We can do this.


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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I thought the crowd was great last night. Heard the odd bit of slagging off a player here and there but nothing out of the ordinary I thought the second half when the team looked half bothered the fans got right behind them

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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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Players were nervous crowd were nervous. Only time crowd got rattled near us was with backward sideways passing AGAIN. That's why we blew the York game. What we supposed to do cheer another 100 backward passes ?


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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pooliemike wrote:
as above- I have to agree I thought the twelfth man last night was shocking, the crowd got on everyones back last night straight from the off.
The crowd needs to support the team and encourage it, not make them more nervous.
If the unthinkable happent then the crowd will be as much to blame as anyone on the pitch.



Maybe it was a hangover from the York game - They were shit- we failed to do anything abut it -the fans have a right to be upset, the club, owners, manager and players need to recognise that - as has been lauded in the last few weeks - without the fans, football is nothing.


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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On thing is certain; these imbeciles keep shouting abuse at the players, it ain't gonna help.


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A utter gobshite near me was slagging Marlon off as soon as he stripped off.

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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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The guy has been a diamond since signing in January. He is only a young lad, I think it's his first loan with a league club and would never have played every game but for our league position.

After all the good he has done, I hope the boo boys don't ruin his stint at the club confised


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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Chesssington wrote:
The guy has been a diamond since signing in January. He is only a young lad, I think it's his first loan with a league club and would never have played every game but for our league position.

After all the good he has done, I hope the boo boys don't ruin his stint at the club confised



This.

I think its easy to forget he is exactly that - a young lad. And a young lad who has played through at least 2 groin injuries since he came here and a young lad who turned down the chance to move to a promotion chasing side or two an all.

A break would do him the world of good but sadly I feel he will be vital at our next 3 games, especially if we go 4-4-2.

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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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But why is he playing if he's carrying an injury, his passing last couple of games has been very poor, as if he's underhitting everything, which points at a pull or groin strain, surely Walker or Hawkins/Addy should be starting then.

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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
On thing is certain; these imbeciles keep shouting abuse at the players, it ain't gonna help.


Spot on


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 Post subject: Re: Tshibola
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kitch1987 wrote:
I thought the crowd was great last night. Heard the odd bit of slagging off a player here and there but nothing out of the ordinary ...

you obviously don't sit/stand on the mill house side


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Chesssington wrote:
The guy has been a diamond since signing in January. He is only a young lad, I think it's his first loan with a league club and would never have played every game but for our league position.

After all the good he has done, I hope the boo boys don't ruin his stint at the club confised


If tshibola hadn't signed for Pools then we would no longer have a fighting chance of staying in the league, we would be down.

As said he looks to be carrying an injury , hopefully he can shake it off....


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