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 Post subject: [Shakes head in bemusement]
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:40 pm 
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Signing him, signing someone else.... we can only sign someone on a short term loan.

The reality is that loans are a sticking plaster. We need proper investment not being the borrowers forever. Even if we manage to scrape out of this position (and we are still bottom), we have a hell of a job to get good players to sign for a team that avoided going out of the league by the skin of their teeth.

Ronnie Moore is doing well. Things are better indeed. But the world is not yet populated by fluffy bunny rabbits.


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 Post subject: Re: [Shakes head in bemusement]
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:46 pm 
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Perhaps some think we already are.


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 Post subject: Re: [Shakes head in bemusement]
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i think our reliance on loans is down to the ridiculous list of players we have contracted to the club who are obviously not good enough to play or have been injured. clearly the previous managers did some shocking business and we a desperate for a huge clear out

some how moore has managed to turn things around with his hands tied behind his back in the transfer market. assuming we stay up and he can get rid of the deadwood, obviously big assumptions, i could see him building a more settled team. obviously with free transfers while IOR are running the club. i dont think attracting players in the summer will be an issue if we avoid relegation by the skin of our teeth, wycombe stayed up on goal difference last year are are in the automatic promotion place now


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 Post subject: Re: [Shakes head in bemusement]
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Ronnie Moore is doing well. Things are better indeed. But the world is not yet populated by fluffy bunny rabbits.

My fluffy bunny is not happy with what you said, Mr I.

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 Post subject: Re: [Shakes head in bemusement]
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After the past week it appears some people are convinced that the rest of the season is a mere formality and we are safe.
We aren't, we've just caught up with the tail end of the convoy, so put the party hats away, there's a lot still to be done.

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 Post subject: Re: [Shakes head in bemusement]
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:26 am 
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Yes spending will be curbed more than usual and I mean on wages until we know where we are playing next season.


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 Post subject: Re: [Shakes head in bemusement]
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:50 am 
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What short memories some of you have.

The necessity of loan players is due to two things;

The signing of has beens on long contracts and the refusal to invest in the team. These are wholly due to the directors of HUFC. Incidentally, why would be any different next season and the season after that, irrespective of league.

We need clarity and honesty. Not smoke and mirrors about FPP and the accounts or 'no more comment will be made'.

Ronnie Moore is doing a fantastic job but to an extent its built on sand. Loans players by definition are short term, I'd like to know what the long term strategy is, if there is one.


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We havent won 3 games on the spin since 1934, people dont know how to react!

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 Post subject: Re: [Shakes head in bemusement]
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:16 am 
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Signing him, signing someone else.... we can only sign someone on a short term loan.

The reality is that loans are a sticking plaster. We need proper investment not being the borrowers forever. Even if we manage to scrape out of this position (and we are still bottom), we have a hell of a job to get good players to sign for a team that avoided going out of the league by the skin of their teeth.

Ronnie Moore is doing well. Things are better indeed. But the world is not yet populated by fluffy bunny rabbits.

Wycombe managed it after survival by the skin of their teeth. If we survive I think with this manager we will kick on next season. Ronnie has come out in the last couple of weeks praising the backing and support he has received from the chairman


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 Post subject: Re: [Shakes head in bemusement]
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nteresting you choose the one success but ignore the myriad of clubs that have struggled year after year before dropping out of the league. Wycombe ironically are owned not by a company or a sugar daddy, they are fan owned.

As for support from the board, words are nice but show me the money. 'John Hughes was always our first choice'.


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 Post subject: Re: [Shakes head in bemusement]
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Think you can take any public comment that any manager makes about a chairman with a massive pinch of salt. If he fancies staying beyond the summer he isn't going to slag the boss off in the press is he? I'd love to hear what a veteran manager like Ronnie Moore thinks of what has gone at the club in recent years (and is still going on) but I don't expect to find out from the Mail.


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 Post subject: Re: [Shakes head in bemusement]
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How can people be fooled by the words of IOR and Green the facts are before all of your eyes. Some are too blind to see it.

I am desperate for Pools to stay up this season but also desperate for a Supporters Trustbto get off the ground and be successful. The club is part of the community and any body that genuinely cares to support that long term has my support. Not being reliant on the whims of owners whose motives are secret surely is better for us all


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 Post subject: Re: [Shakes head in bemusement]
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Exactly, league survival would be amazing, but under the current regime this would be a stay of execution rather than a renaissance.


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 Post subject: Re: [Shakes head in bemusement]
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:23 pm 
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MadJohn wrote:
Snowy wrote:
After the past week it appears some people are convinced that the rest of the season is a mere formality and we are safe.
We aren't, we've just caught up with the tail end of the convoy, so put the party hats away, there's a lot still to be done.

There certainly seems to be an inflated sense of optimism, which is understandable I suppose when we've spent so long looking so unlikely. Saturday's game is still huge. The Easter fixtures are not the most favourable we could have had, and it would be very easy for us to slip behind again. I would say we're still more likely to go down than not, but I get the optimism even as I try to resist its pull.



This. Pools were awful first half on Saturday and if we had gone a goal behind I didn't fancy us to come back. Featherstone's run into the box for the penalty changed the game and the atmosphere, which was flat till then.

I - marginally - do fancy us to stay up because we have a number of players (the one's who are actually on HUFC's books) coming into their best form of the season, but another derailment against Cambridge or York wouldn't be a surprise. For a start we always seem to get beat on a Grand National Saturday!

Coming back to Mr.I's original point, the possibility of Pools staying up has no bearing on the need for a Supporters' Trust and for fundamental changes in the way the club is run. HUFC has the potential and the fan base to be, at the very least, a secure top half of League Two side and for whatever reasons the current regime has been falling well short of that.

They deserve a bit of credit for the financial support that Ronnie Moore has had since he took over, but this is an interim situation only.


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