Russ Green Interview

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:30 am

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Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

I wont comment.

Honestly, I wont.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

"The club’s Never Say Die spirit will need to come to the fore."

Isnt it funny that since people started saying that we've been shite?

Well it's not funny actually.

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

Its also funny how....................no I promised I wouldnt.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 7762

if you wont Dibbs then i will

"BOLLOCKS"

and i will be there saturday
3rd time this season the other 2 times we won both games 2-0 so am going for me hattrick

parmo · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:44 am

I hope you get it Mr Grayhound !!! We all hope so!!

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

Grayhoundend wrote:

if you wont Dibbs then i will

"BOLLOCKS"

and i will be there saturday
3rd time this season the other 2 times we won both games 2-0 so am going for me hattrick

Thankyou.

As I had promised I wouldnt.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

At the end of the day do the details of IOR's exit actually matter?

The club was grinding to a halt and now we have a bit of hope again.

Fuck all of this negativity we are starting a new era and of course you have to enter that with caution and a little uncertainty but let's at least back this new start at least until we have any reason to do otherwise including Russ Green this is a fresh start lets support the club, we are after all, supporters.

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

Who is being negative about the new owners?

I just dont know how Russ Green has the brass neck thats all.

But I must be feeling positive because I have decided to go on the 28th. Cant do tomorrow though.

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

Who are we playing on the 28th by the way?

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:

Who are we playing on the 28th by the way?

Morecambe.

Russ Green is part of the new regime, so constantly sniping at him is sniping at them. The slate is clean for me lets give him a chance to deliver. Let's see if Ken was the Millstone around his neck stopping him from doing his job how he wanted to do it.

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:32 pm

Agreed, slate is clean in my eyes.

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

Look for the last time, very last, my issue wasnt with Green and hodcroft. Its who Green has appointed under him, and the relationship between them all.

Unfortunately thats still there, and I have principles, and morals, despite what you might think. I have been consistent about it, and I wont let it go.

Thats not to say I want to be negative, I dont.

And I am going to go again. But I wont be handing too much of my cash over to pay these peoples wages, and personal ambitions.

For now, I will leave it at that.

Unless some still want to have a go at me over it.

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

and of course I cant allow GeoffN love of green to go unchallenged. That just wouldnt be right.

Soma · **Joined:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:29 pm **Posts:** 574

He's talking of League One and Two players lined up for January to help us get out of this hole. I'm not going to make the effort of trying to be skeptical about it. He's quite clearly laid out the plans, now let's just wait and see if they do follow through with them.

We have heard it before but the circumstances are somewhat different with it being new owners. I'm hopeful and I like what I'm hearing.

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:58 pm

Who are these League One and Two players we've earmarked, because I'd be surprised - if they were any good - that their respective clubs would allow them to leave. They would have to be surplus to requirements, or on the fringes of their current squad's, ....which therefore poses the question are they going to be good enough?
They would certainly need to possess more aggression than this current crop of 'foppish dandy's' we have at present.

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

Lets make an assumption here.

This LIST must be the names Ronnie Moore has said he wants, and has probably lined up.

If thats the case, then we have to have faith that they will be fine, and just what we need.

Unless of course its the usual bollox.

But we have to believe it the former.

Soma · **Joined:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:29 pm **Posts:** 574

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:

Who are these League One and Two players we've earmarked, because I'd be surprised - if they were any good - that their respective clubs would allow them to leave. They would have to be surplus to requirements, or on the fringes of their current squad's, ....which therefore poses the question are they going to be good enough?
They would certainly need to possess more aggression than this current crop of 'foppish dandy's' we have at present.

The question "are they going to be good enough?" is quite literally impossible to answer at this point. Cynicism is great at times but sometimes it's a lot easier to just see how things play out. There's not a lot we can do other than that, and it's far more pleasant than having a debate about whether players we don't know anything about and who haven't signed yet are good enough.

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

spot on chip.

tripledecker · **Joined:** Sat Aug 10, 2013 5:25 pm **Posts:** 1938

Chip Fireball wrote:

I think at present a healthy mix of optimism and caution is called for. There isnt anything Russ Green has said in the last couple of days we havent heard many, many, times before, and I was one of the fools that was optimistic over the Summer then watched in horror as good players left and shit ones came in.

Likewise having fans representation in the boardroom meeting sounds great in principle, but then so did the fans panel. That will only work if the right person gets appointed rather than a nodding dog club man who will roll over for Russ and co.

Previously we had Ken Hodcroft ( a bloke nobody had heard of and who didnt appear wealthy himself ) fronting up a company called IOR with Russ as his CEO, but nobody ever knew who the owners were.

Now we have Peter Harris doing almost exactly the same, and until we actually see who owns the club and whether they have the money to do the things they claim thay are going to do, its right to err on the side of caution. I'm certainly not going to jump on any bandwagon urging the council to sell the ground to these people until they stick their heads over the parapet and tell us who they are and why they are investing in the club.

The managerial appointment looks great, the new Chairman is making all the right noises, and slashing ticket prices is a positive move. What we need to see next is action in the transfer market to improve a squad we all know isnt good enough.

Good post
I have said before anyone jumping up and volunteering to be the fans representative should be immediately discounted , we need someone who know though he is on the board meeting he is there almost as an auditor

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:39 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

It all sounds very positive, but talk is cheap, and talk is something we have had a lot of.

We have heard all of this before, with every new manager that comes in. We aren't actually hearing anything we didnt hear a few year back when John Hughes was appointed and the window opened and then closed and nothing happened.

If we start signing quality players in January thats fantastic, I'm sure it will give everyone a massive lift. But Russ must know he now needs to deliver on this promise, there are no more excuses fans will tolerate.

Will only be getting loan signings in case we get relegated, you don`t get the same level of passion and die hardedness(made up word) from loanees I don`t think, as long as we get players who get stuck in and fight, that all we can hope for.
I can`t see Moore signing pussies though can you?

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

monkeybutt wrote:

Chip Fireball wrote:

It all sounds very positive, but talk is cheap, and talk is something we have had a lot of.

We have heard all of this before, with every new manager that comes in. We aren't actually hearing anything we didnt hear a few year back when John Hughes was appointed and the window opened and then closed and nothing happened.

If we start signing quality players in January thats fantastic, I'm sure it will give everyone a massive lift. But Russ must know he now needs to deliver on this promise, there are no more excuses fans will tolerate.

Will only be getting loan signings in case we get relegated, you don`t get the same level of passion and die hardedness(made up word) from loanees I don`t think, as long as we get players who get stuck in and fight, that all we can hope for.
I can`t see Moore signing pussies though can you?

Where has it been said we are only bringing in loan signings?

Is the post also available in English by the way? I'm sure what you are trying to say Mr Butt?

hartlefool79 · **Joined:** Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:07 pm **Posts:** 299

Why are people so fucking negative on here . FFS we have just been taken over be positive, give them a chance . I for one don,t give a fuck who Ronnie signs too loans or permanent as long as they give 100 per cent and we have to trust Moore with who he signs. We're not under IOR anymore it might not all be shit talk for once, all the people I have spoken to associated with the club always say how much Russ feels for the club. Let's see what happens in January so until then come on back the boys.

Barriewardrobe · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:14 pm

Why do you reckon TMH have kept him on ? He's a mate of one of them ?
All that 'invested heavily' bollox, if you own a professional football club, that's what happens !
Why does he feel the need to 'suck up to IOR' now they have left the building...so to speak.
Would have been better if this interview hadn't taken place, or better still chubby Russ would have left also, clean slate 'and all that'.
Guess the new owners think he's good at something.....

hartlefool79 · **Joined:** Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:07 pm **Posts:** 299

If it's true that Russ was the one who got this deal started and done does that not show he wanted IOR out too, maybe

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:42 pm

PJPoolie wrote:

monkeybutt wrote:

Chip Fireball wrote:

It all sounds very positive, but talk is cheap, and talk is something we have had a lot of.

We have heard all of this before, with every new manager that comes in. We aren't actually hearing anything we didnt hear a few year back when John Hughes was appointed and the window opened and then closed and nothing happened.

If we start signing quality players in January thats fantastic, I'm sure it will give everyone a massive lift. But Russ must know he now needs to deliver on this promise, there are no more excuses fans will tolerate.

Will only be getting loan signings in case we get relegated, you don`t get the same level of passion and die hardedness(made up word) from loanees I don`t think, as long as we get players who get stuck in and fight, that all we can hope for.
I can`t see Moore signing pussies though can you?

Where has it been said we are only bringing in loan signings?

Is the post also available in English by the way? I'm sure what you are trying to say Mr Butt?

Have you heard any of the interviews?

We will be using the loan market to get out of this, experienced league 1 and 2 players, not spending a fortune in case we get relegated!

How is the post not in English, apart from the made up word, as stated?

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

I just found it hard to follow what you were trying to say!

I'm sure Moore will use the loan market for a couple of targets, but a few like Russ Green and Jeff Stelling have stated we also have money to spend so I hope we aren't restricted to the loan market. We've tried that, albeit at the cheap end of it, it didn't work.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

There may well be little money to spend but even if we had 500k to spend, any chairman with a ounce of common sense wouldn't say so as other clubs would up their prices.

We just gotta wait and see but so far all the noises are positive imo.

horden · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:03 pm

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:

Who are these League One and Two players we've earmarked, because I'd be surprised - if they were any good - that their respective clubs would allow them to leave. They would have to be surplus to requirements, or on the fringes of their current squad's, ....which therefore poses the question are they going to be good enough?
They would certainly need to possess more aggression than this current crop of 'foppish dandy's' we have at present.

Top tip for Russ! the secret of getting success in football is to sign players who are of the quality to play in the division above the one you're in, example team who wants to get out of conference have players of Lge 2 quality, league 2 have lge 1 and so on. These players don't necessarily have to be playing in Lge 1 at the moment, they may be in the Conference playing beneath themselves, or even in Lge 2 or even players who are struggling in the Premiership or Championship.

But if you sign league 2 quality players then that is exactly where you will stay/end up. Though I appreciate survival is the name of the game short term, it would be nice to sign some players who could help us kick on next season too.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

horden wrote:

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:

Who are these League One and Two players we've earmarked, because I'd be surprised - if they were any good - that their respective clubs would allow them to leave. They would have to be surplus to requirements, or on the fringes of their current squad's, ....which therefore poses the question are they going to be good enough?
They would certainly need to possess more aggression than this current crop of 'foppish dandy's' we have at present.

Top tip for Russ! the secret of getting success in football is to sign players who are of the quality to play in the division above the one you're in, example team who wants to get out of conference have players of Lge 2 quality, league 2 have lge 1 and so on. These players don't necessarily have to be playing in Lge 1 at the moment, they may be in the Conference playing beneath themselves, or even in Lge 2 or even players who are struggling in the Premiership or Championship.

But if you sign league 2 quality players then that is exactly where you will stay/end up. Though I appreciate survival is the name of the game short term, it would be nice to sign some players who could help us kick on next season too.

To sign such quality league 1 players when your 92nd in the football league is difficult unless you have mega bucks to throw about and under FFP you can't do that.

Like when Darlo we're signing Heaney, Liddle etc. I just don't think you can do that these days.

horden · **Posted:** Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:43 am

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

horden wrote:

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:

Who are these League One and Two players we've earmarked, because I'd be surprised - if they were any good - that their respective clubs would allow them to leave. They would have to be surplus to requirements, or on the fringes of their current squad's, ....which therefore poses the question are they going to be good enough?
They would certainly need to possess more aggression than this current crop of 'foppish dandy's' we have at present.

Top tip for Russ! the secret of getting success in football is to sign players who are of the quality to play in the division above the one you're in, example team who wants to get out of conference have players of Lge 2 quality, league 2 have lge 1 and so on. These players don't necessarily have to be playing in Lge 1 at the moment, they may be in the Conference playing beneath themselves, or even in Lge 2 or even players who are struggling in the Premiership or Championship.

You make a valid point, the rules make it more difficult to replicate what has been done in the past. It is difficult to attract good players when you are 92nd in the league I agree, that why appointment of a good manager is important. I was referring to the likes of Barry Siddall, Martin Hodge, John McPhail and Gordon Watson in the past, who brought the best out of Dalton and Honour already at the club, and helped youngster such as Fletcher and Southall, adding a bit of quality such as Saville, Johnrose and Emerson later when things had picked up. It can be done with a bit of initiative.
But if you sign league 2 quality players then that is exactly where you will stay/end up. Though I appreciate survival is the name of the game short term, it would be nice to sign some players who could help us kick on next season too.

To sign such quality league 1 players when your 92nd in the football league is difficult unless you have mega bucks to throw about and under FFP you can't do that.

Like when Darlo we're signing Heaney, Liddle etc. I just don't think you can do that these days.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Chip Fireball wrote:

Not sure about PJ's point regarding loan players. Surely if it wasn't for Burgess, Dolan, Williams and Harrison we would have been relegated last season ?

Likewise our defence has looked a damn site worse since Harrison went back, and Wyke also chipped in with goals at the other end.

As with everything its about quality. Harrison, Wyke, Dolan, and Williams would collectively improve the current team by about a million per cent.

I'm sure about it we need to strengthen the entire spine of the team as I said I'm sure Moore will use to loan market but we still need a couple of key permanent singings like when we signed Gary Strodder back in the day, we had Harrison and Wyke in the team early season and still lost most games. The only way out of this is a few proven players. Monkeybutt was suggesting we'll only sign loan players, if that happens we'll go down IMO.

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