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 Post subject: The unbearable consequence of relegation? God forbid
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:39 pm 
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If it goes tits up today-what effect will it have on our immediate and long term future?

On the playing side I would expect us to lose the following who I do not believe fr one second ill hang around for league fotball-james brown,scott flinders,andy monkhouse,neil austin and adam boyd.

Thats a sizeable chunk of our most talented players-5 of them.

it would not be an easy task to replace them,what with no money,the expected backlash of the drop in season ticket sales (which is predicted whether we stay up or not).

I do not believe for one second that we would be in a position/or be as strong as the club that bounced straight back up in 2007-therefore we HAVE to avoid the drop,to be able to attempt to build this club up.

If we go down we may not get back up for some considerable time-and thats before even considering whether IOR will be sticking around for much longer or not.

Im not trying to be overly dramatic here-it really could be make or break time for the future of this club-If IOR give up on us,and they will one day thats guaranteed-who's to say we would ever come back-our gates are awful,we are no bigger than chester city were,aldershot or darlo of course........

In this time where there has been more critiscim of IOR and their methods than there ever was before,is it really beyond the realms of belief that they might say enough is enough?

the more I think about it this game is as big and important a game as any in our recent history-since Sheff Utd in the FA cup in 1994,when we almost went bust.

If im honest,I dont think im over dramatising this-Im very scared of what the future could hold-IOR have made mistakes big style this term and last,but I dont want to contemplate what happens if we end up in league 2,and they call it a day.

come on huddersfield,come on stockport,and more importantly come on pools-we need to stay up...............

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 Post subject: Re: The unbearable consequence of relegation? God forbid
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:59 pm 
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In this time where there has been more critiscim of IOR and their methods than there ever was before,is it really beyond the realms of belief that they might say enough is enough?



No it's not 'beyond the realm, etc' but I fervently wish that they didn't take the attitude that criticism of their methods is so very terrible. Wouldn't it be more positive (and it wouldn't really hurt at all) to admit that they've been wrong over some things, and then think about putting them right?

We've had a number of fiascos this season, so many that some hard-core fans have stopped coming to matches. The muddle and lack of ethical reasoning have even affected another team (Billingham), a new first. Now to cap it all, we've made a mistake over playing Gary Liddle, the upshot of which could be that another League 1 team won't find out for ages whether it's relegated or not, pending our appeal. In my opinion, the Club oughtn't to have appealed, if only for that reason, that do so would be unfair.
Let's just hope we win to-day, for all reasons.


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 Post subject: Re: The unbearable consequence of relegation? God forbid
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 5:23 pm 
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thank you gillingham rolf


now we need to hope the club/ior look and learn from this term-again,we should have done more to learn from past errors,but at the very least we have that reprieve now.

up to hodcroft now.

but at this very moment im raising a glass to stimson and his boys :grin:

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 Post subject: Re: The unbearable consequence of relegation? God forbid
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 5:37 pm 
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Hodcroft is the perfect example of he who pays the piper calls the tune.
I am not rich enough to challenge him.
His decisions in the close season will determine the shape of next season.

Hartlepool fans do have some power though....................they have the power to keep their money in their pockets. Unless something dramatic happens I expect that quite a few will do exactly that.

Over to you Kenneth.

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 Post subject: Re: The unbearable consequence of relegation? God forbid
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 5:40 pm 
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derwent wrote:
Hodcroft is the perfect example of he who pays the piper calls the tune.
I am not rich enough to challenge him.
His decisions in the close season will determine the shape of next season.

Hartlepool fans do have some power though....................they have the power to keep their money in their pockets. Unless something dramatic happens I expect that quite a few will do exactly that.

Over to you Kenneth.



No season ticket renewel for me till Turner is removed. And i suspect from a lot of others!!

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 Post subject: Re: The unbearable consequence of relegation? God forbid
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 5:46 pm 
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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
derwent wrote:
Hodcroft is the perfect example of he who pays the piper calls the tune.
I am not rich enough to challenge him.
His decisions in the close season will determine the shape of next season.

Hartlepool fans do have some power though....................they have the power to keep their money in their pockets. Unless something dramatic happens I expect that quite a few will do exactly that.

Over to you Kenneth.



No season ticket renewel for me till Turner is removed. And i suspect from a lot of others!!


I will be another not renewing. Im pretty certain that you can knock another 1000 of the gates next season if he is still in charge. Can the club really afford to lose out on this much income. Of course not. The question is whether Ken keeps his head stuck firmly in the sand (or should that be firmly up CT's backside).

As another poster said a while ago now, Ken himself should be held accountable, he should be replaced too.

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 Post subject: Re: The unbearable consequence of relegation? God forbid
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 8:18 pm 
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I too had vowed not to renew if CT reamins at the helm............


today hasnt changed that,but i dont know how I can stay away come 3pm on a saturday.........

Ive just drank 3/4 of a bottle of vodka this afternoon!!!!!

I think my liver is better of watching the dire shit I have witnessed each week-it may prolong my existence :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: The unbearable consequence of relegation? God forbid
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 9:23 pm 
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I will be another not renewing. Im pretty certain that you can knock another 1000 of the gates next season if he is still in charge.

Grave in over exaggeration shock!

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 Post subject: Re: The unbearable consequence of relegation? God forbid
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:13 pm 
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Grave wrote:

I will be another not renewing. Im pretty certain that you can knock another 1000 of the gates next season if he is still in charge.

Grave in over exaggeration shock!


I dont think it is an exaguration MrB! You just have to listen to the majority or people at the home games this season to realise how many are not going to be going to pools next season unless things change. The amount of people who left the last home game and said they wouldnt be returning was quite worrying. The attendances next season will plummet greatly if CT is still in charge.

I dont think he will be like. Even I have too much faith in IOR for that to happen.

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it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if was still in charge!

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 Post subject: Re: The unbearable consequence of relegation? God forbid
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it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if was still in charge!


Please god no

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 Post subject: Re: The unbearable consequence of relegation? God forbid
PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 1:17 pm 
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I believe he will be in charge next season,after all he had recently been quoted on summer transfer plans,ie 3 or 4 to improve the squad,rather than whole sale changes last last year wasnt it?

Why would a man who who doesnt have the utmost confidence that he will remain in the hotseat come out with something like that.............

The only reason I dont think he would be in charge is if he stepped down due to strain of it all,following this campaign and the turning of the terraces against him- following the emotional outpouring from him yesterday,I must admit I felt for the first time that maybe he was feeling that it was job done and he had had enough-but Im certainly not putting money on it.

Hodcroft wont get rid of him,and will want him to remain,as 1st it is saving a wage,2ndly as he has (admirable or blind?) faith in the man.

The only way he will go is to step down. Im currently 75 % thinking that he will stay on for next term.

We shall see

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