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 Post subject: Brilliant stuff and ratings
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:33 pm 
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Well the game started with Brighton on top with their 5 man midfield but a nice tactical change from Turner :shock: saw us go like for like with Mcsweeney in the centre and O Donovan on the left and it worked a treat! Having someone with an engine and pace in the middle like Mcsweeney was brilliant and something we have lacked for ages. Anyway we started getting on top and got a deserved win.

Brighton as usual a bunch of dirty thugs and whingers. Was great to see us getting stuck into them back towards the end and they didnt like it one bit :laugh:

Flinders-9. Magnificent, 1 fabulous save when tipping it over the bar and some good handling.
Haslam-7. One weird moment where just let the ball go out for a corner which was bizzare but defencivly is better than Hartley.
Austin-7.5. Solid, got some good strong tackles in too which got crowd going.
Liddle-8.5. Awesome, crunching tackles and some great interceptions.
Collins-8.5. As above but kinda wish he had laid Hendrie out, the little shit. Rose above the bait like the pro he is.
Gamble-6. Looks shattered and was poor today.
Humps-7.5. Miles better than Gamble and did very well :shock: Would have left him on and took Gamble off.
Monky-7.5. Brilliant finish with curling shot and looked up for it as soon as tackles started going in.
Mcsweeney-8. Ok not everything worked for him but was a breath of fresh air in the middle and never stops.
O Donovan-7.5. Did everything asked of him and an absolutly awesome finish and that little odious prick Elphick decided to trip himself up. Faggot.
Bjornnson-7. Crowd moaned at him all game as usual but thought he put a canny shift in. Daft little thug at the back was pushing and shoving him all over, he will be first to admit he aint great in the air but lovely cushioned chest to set up the first goal.

Brown-7. Great work for the second
Power-7. Got closer to them in 5 minutes than Gamble all game.

Well done everyone concerned. A brilliant passionate performance!!! rolf

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concurring :grin:
although maybe not so harsh on gamble imo he jsut looked nackered but concurring anyway :grin:

i was astonished at turners tactical skill today. its also nice to have a hard working midfield and to see humphreys get some well deserved praise


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Thought Gamble was better than a 6 today thought agree he looks tired. Most impressive performance for me was from McSweeney he may not be the best footballer in the squad but if the ones with more ability worked as hard we would be chasing a top 6 place clappp

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The first hour or so was a shambles - 3 of the 4 attacking players were playing out of position, and the fourth (Bjornsson) was playing like a wet flannel. He was so isolated it was unreal - he was getting no support from anyone, McSweeney included. I'm not blaming any of the players, I'm blaming the tactics.

Our TWO defensive midfielders (we're at home, needing a win, for god's sake) were so far back that we were just inviting pressure, and against a better team (Brighton were very poor - did they actually have a striker?) we'd have been punished...

The tactics were changed eventually and thankfully we got the goal which gave us the confidence to go on, but it could have been so different today. If people are praising Turners tactics after that, then it's clear that either them or I don't have a clue what we're talking about.


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I felt that Brighton used the advantage of the wind in the first half and we did well to keep them at bay. I was happy with that at half time as they were clearly the better team.

Second half, I expected us to use the wind to our advantage, but it seemed to drop. We changed things around a bit, stepped it up and outfought them.

Very happy with this result and performance. Well done lads. Keep it up!

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The first hour or so was a shambles - 3 of the 4 attacking players were playing out of position, and the fourth (Bjornsson) was playing like a wet flannel. He was so isolated it was unreal - he was getting no support from anyone, McSweeney included. I'm not blaming any of the players, I'm blaming the tactics.

Our TWO defensive midfielders (we're at home, needing a win, for god's sake) were so far back that we were just inviting pressure, and against a better team (Brighton were very poor - did they actually have a striker?) we'd have been punished...

The tactics were changed eventually and thankfully we got the goal which gave us the confidence to go on, but it could have been so different today. If people are praising Turners tactics after that, then it's clear that either them or I don't have a clue what we're talking about.


First hour? sctatchinghead

They were far the better side for the first 35 minutes, but we slowly got back into the game. Second half was a good solid performance & Turner must be given credit for his tactical changes. We stopped them using their full / wing backs, forcing them to play longer balls - for most of the first half, the keeper always played short passes to defenders. True, we did defend too deep in midfield at times - but forced them to shoot from longer range.

Turner has to be given credit when it's deserved - but some clearly don't want to give him any, no matter what he does. I don't want him to be manager next season, but he deserves a pat on the back today.

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Good game from 2 teams trying to play football. Even contest in the main IMO. 2 gr8 finishes, and a couple of gr8 saves from our keeper, proving to be the decisive moments in the game. Good to see us battle for the 90 minutes too. Incidently, I thought Flinders had certainly his best game this year if not this season clappp we r staying up say we r staying up rolf


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 Post subject: Re: Brilliant stuff and ratings
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:15 pm 
IMHO Bjornson was a waste of a shirt today, Finders was awesome in goal & both Collins & Liddle were solid in defence. We did well to hold on when they had the wind behind them in the first half. Humphries seems to have got a new lease of life! Agree Turner would have been better taking off Gambol who was struggling a bit - don't think he had a bad a game as some on here do.

Seen us play better than today and lose but not a bad performance

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Agreed with most of that Tree. I probably would have give Gamble less than 6 to be honest. I thought he was dreadful and Humphries was far and away better (which says a lot).

Turner deserves credit for changing things at half time and the players deserve credit for giving 100%. At half time I think we would have all settled for a point.

The performance wasnt great but we got the three points. Well done lads.

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chip fireball wrote:
nick wrote:
The first hour or so was a shambles - 3 of the 4 attacking players were playing out of position, and the fourth (Bjornsson) was playing like a wet flannel. He was so isolated it was unreal - he was getting no support from anyone, McSweeney included. I'm not blaming any of the players, I'm blaming the tactics.

Our TWO defensive midfielders (we're at home, needing a win, for god's sake) were so far back that we were just inviting pressure, and against a better team (Brighton were very poor - did they actually have a striker?) we'd have been punished...

The tactics were changed eventually and thankfully we got the goal which gave us the confidence to go on, but it could have been so different today. If people are praising Turners tactics after that, then it's clear that either them or I don't have a clue what we're talking about.


agree totally with that. o donovan got away with a blatant foul for the first goal, tho it was a great finish after that. it was our first meaningful attack of the game.

i guess sometimes the end justifies the means. as for tactical genius. lol, are folk on crack ? our keeper got motm, which just about sums things up.

we battled hard but the football we played was abysmal until the last 20 minutes.



Who said tactical genius?? sctatchinghead

He changed things and we went on to win. As for O donovan fouling him! He was no where near him :laugh:

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At half time I felt that we were in no danger of losing & fancied us to nick it,but could see why Brighton dont lose many away from home.
Second half,again never really felt threatened by Brighton & always felt that we would win,once the first goal went in I never felt like we would chuck the three points away

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we set out to stifle their game and frustrate them. I thought in the 2nd half we did it particularly well. It may have been a negative tactic to an extent, but it worked and it got us the 3 points.

I thought to a man, every single one of them earned their money today, epecially Humphreys & McSweeney, who put in ridiculous amounts of effort.

I'm a very happy Poolie today clappp

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I'm very happy as well. It's about time we beat Brighton !!! rolf


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I'm very happy as well. It's about time we beat Brighton !!! rolf


We beat them twice last season, 2-1 in the FA Cup and 1-0 at home in league. So it not exactly years POK mate

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Yeah, but even so I remember when them and Macclesfield were our bogey teams.

Even so, its great to record another win over them.


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Chuffed to bits with the result, but i thought Brighton where the better team first half and we where very lucky to go in level. Anyway we battled away well second half and Gary Liddle was superb and must be in contention for player of the season. Scott Flinders looked really good today, and i thought O Donovans workrate and finish where first class. Humphreys put another good shift in, but i thought bjornsson was embarrasing (week as piss, and poor in the air), and should have been taken off sooner. Still very happy with the 6 points over the weekend !!!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:43 pm 
Very satisfying to beat such a pack of wankers.

Brighton fans are great and always have been but I have never seen a team with as much to say to the officials and opposition players, they were a good side as well and I think Poyet is a good manager but what a collective of pricks.

I have rarely seen anything as gratifying as O'Donovan harrying that absolute 'lovely lovely person' Elphick into a mistake for the first goal. The five minutes added on were solely due to Brighton players twisting. What a pack of plum sacks who leave the North East beaten, a marvellous end to bank holiday weekend.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:46 pm 
I was ashamed to be a Poolie today........



Elphick didn't get anywhere near the abuse he deserved!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Brilliant stuff and ratings
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:15 pm 
chip fireball wrote:
nick wrote:
The first hour or so was a shambles - 3 of the 4 attacking players were playing out of position, and the fourth (Bjornsson) was playing like a wet flannel. He was so isolated it was unreal - he was getting no support from anyone, McSweeney included. I'm not blaming any of the players, I'm blaming the tactics.

Our TWO defensive midfielders (we're at home, needing a win, for god's sake) were so far back that we were just inviting pressure, and against a better team (Brighton were very poor - did they actually have a striker?) we'd have been punished...

The tactics were changed eventually and thankfully we got the goal which gave us the confidence to go on, but it could have been so different today. If people are praising Turners tactics after that, then it's clear that either them or I don't have a clue what we're talking about.


agree totally with that. o donovan got away with a blatant foul for the first goal, tho it was a great finish after that. it was our first meaningful attack of the game.

i guess sometimes the end justifies the means. as for tactical genius. lol, are folk on crack ? our keeper got motm, which just about sums things up.

we battled hard but the football we played was abysmal until the last 20 minutes.


We didn't play great football, but Brighton for me were one of the best sides we've playe and if we'd have shown that level of desire and bottle on a more consistent basis we'd have lost far less games at home this season. They were excellent in the first half an hour but we rolled our sleeves up and battled to a deserved win.

Flinders had a good game but no way was he man of the match, he made one brilliant save from a shot from distance and a couple of other good saves, Lua Lua missed a one on one which he made himself at 2-0, and did he get a touch on that one that hit the bar (again from outside of the area). What other chances did they have? Liddle, Humphreys, Austin, Monkhouse, and Collins all had better games than him and contributed more to the win.


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the first half it just didn't happen, nothing did, no shots on target says it all. It just looked like 3 players out of position and a white marcus richardson upfront. Second half it clicked better, liddle and collins were immense, collins can't pass for toffee but i think every team no a no nonsense centre back. Power should have started gamble looked well off, humphs got about well. Tactically turner has always been brilliant at nickin an away point or 3 with a gritty away performance and i felt he played today like an away game, not easy on the eye but gets the points which is what we need now.

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Well pleased with a return of 6 pts over the Easter Weekend, thought we were much more aggressive today and it worked for us, usually other teams take the physical approach and we succumb.

Thought Brighton were an impressive, passing team, and can see why they are comfortably mid-table. Remember this is a side who have not lost an away league game since Dec 19th.
This season they have won at Charlton and Soton, and drawn at Leeds and Colchester, so well done lad's excellent win. clappp

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as a defensive unit I thought we were excellent today and pegged brighton back to a couple of long range efforts.

man of match could have went to flinders, collins or liddle.

turner did great in changing things around after 20 mins of us getting battered in midfield, cant fault him for that.

on the other hand bjornsonn doesnt have the heart/ability for this standard of football, so no more fooking about with him please


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as a defensive unit I thought we were excellent today and pegged brighton back to a couple of long range efforts.

man of match could have went to flinders, collins or liddle.

turner did great in changing things around after 20 mins of us getting battered in midfield, cant fault him for that.

on the other hand bjornsonn doesnt have the heart/ability for this standard of football, so no more fooking about with him please


He has the ability, he just isn't very good in the air. When the supply is into his feet and chest he's got a good touch and awareness.

The ironic cheers when he headed a ball today were embarrassing, we are desperate for points and we have thickets in the crowd taking the piss out of or own players ten minutes into a game against a decent side.


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The ironic cheers when he headed a ball today were embarrassing, we are desperate for points and we have thickets in the crowd taking the piss out of or own players ten minutes into a game against a decent side.


I concur. Shameful. He is a useful player when we keep the ball on the deck.

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Grave wrote:
PJ_Poolie wrote:

The ironic cheers when he headed a ball today were embarrassing, we are desperate for points and we have thickets in the crowd taking the piss out of or own players ten minutes into a game against a decent side.


I concur. Shameful. He is a useful player when we keep the ball on the deck.


well, I didnt boo him or anything but i just dont see how he could be usefull with the ball on the deck or in the air.

he was knackered after 45mins of doing not much and could'nt muster the strength to chase down their centre half just before he got subbed

when brown came on it was night and day having a player on the pitch with ability who can hold on to the ball until others caught up - and in doing so setting up monkhouse to get our 2nd goal.


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klinger wrote:
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The ironic cheers when he headed a ball today were embarrassing, we are desperate for points and we have thickets in the crowd taking the piss out of or own players ten minutes into a game against a decent side.


I concur. Shameful. He is a useful player when we keep the ball on the deck.


well, I didnt boo him or anything but i just dont see how he could be usefull with the ball on the deck or in the air.

he was knackered after 45mins of doing not much and could'nt muster the strength to chase down their centre half just before he got subbed

when brown came on it was night and day having a player on the pitch with ability who can hold on to the ball until others caught up - and in doing so setting up monkhouse to get our 2nd goal.



And who done the lovely control for our first??? Yes Bjornsson. The guy doesnt want the ball to his head. He wants it to his feet or chest and his ability lies in good control, vision and passing. (sadly not much of it possible on our awful pitch) Being tall doesnt mean your brilliant in the air especially against two of the most physical of centre backs you will meet.

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I didn't think Bjornsson played well on saturday but that's 2 starts and 6 points. We have have probably played better on many occasions this season and got nothing.


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I didn't think Bjornsson played well on saturday but that's 2 starts and 6 points. We have have probably played better on many occasions this season and got nothing.



Mad John, whats our point returns like when say Bjornsson or Haslam have started games?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:14 pm 
Turner made the tactical change midway through the first half didn't he??! sctatchinghead

whatever, it worked

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I dont think these last few games will change anything.

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to be fair if they'd had a striker instead of 2 YTS lads up front we might have been in bother. as it was collins and liddle just kept knocking them off the ball.

im over the moon with the 3 points today. bizzarely it now looks like due to us having a huge fully fit squad, and some easy games coming up, that we might finish mid table after all. :shock:

a few nagging questions have now been raised....

if we got to 14-15 th can anyone see anything other than turner staying on as manager ?

the workrate and committment was great for a change today, but how many people are gonna buy season tickets to watch that for another 12 months ?

if we finished on an 8 game unbeaten run and mid table would anyone actually want turner to quit as manager ?


If Turner is the manager next season then I wont be getting a season ticket no matter what division we are in. If we appoint a new manager then I will be getting a seson ticket (even if we get relegated).

Its not just about results, I want to be entertained and under Turner that isnt happening (and wont happen).

If 14th or 15 result in Turner staying then I would prefer us to finish 20th and get rid of him. It would be better for the club in the long run especially in terms of the gates next season.

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They had a poor front line today and only looked dangerous when LuaLua came on.
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Grave wrote:
If Turner is the manager next season then I wont be getting a season ticket no matter what division we are in. If we appoint a new manager then I will be getting a seson ticket (even if we get relegated).

I fully understand your decision and hundreds of other people will not get one if Turner's still boss but surely it's the team you support and not the manager. I would get a season ticket regardless of who is in charge.


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what if adolf hitler was in charge and he let james brown go on a free because he is jewish, and likewise with liddle because he is gay ?

would you get a season ticket then ?

even if they replaced the ior logo with a swaztika ?

you would would you ?

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chip fireball wrote:
what if adolf hitler was in charge and he let james brown go on a free because he is jewish, and likewise with liddle because he is gay ?

would you get a season ticket then ?

even if they replaced the ior logo with a swaztika ?

you would would you ?

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I thought it was a good win v Brighton and an excellent round off to what has been a very satisfactory Easter weekend.

Although Brighton had more of the ball in the first half I don't think they ever really looked like scoring. Our defence seemed to cope well enough with a poor looking strike force and the best save of the match from Flinders came when we were already 2-0 up anyway. He deserved MOTM for that save. Had it been 2-1 with just over 10 minutes to go it would have been very nervy indeed as I thought Brighton finished strongly.

I thought Bjornsson was poor. He was the only player who stood out as being off the pace and didn't really contribute much. Brown, who replaced him, did more in 5 minutes of coming on. It's frustrating because I'm confident that on his day Bjornsson is a good player.


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