Dylan Purvis?

1 Scott Flinders 7/10 keep
2 Neil Austin 8 keep
3 Ritchie Humphreys 5 undecided
4 Gary Liddle 7 keep
5 Sam Collins 6 scatter
6 Ben Clark 6 keep
7 Leon McSweeney 6 keep
8 Ritchie Jones 6 keep
9 Denis Behan 5 keep
10 Adam Boyd 6 keep
11 Andy Monkhouse 6 keep
12 James Brown 6 keep
14 Jonny Rowell htfdik
15 Antony Sweeney 5 undecided
16 Steven Haslam 6 keep
18 Michael Mackay 5 scatter
19 Jon-Andre Fredriksen 5 keep
20 Alan Power htfdik
21 Mark Cook htfdik
22 Matty Tymon htfdik
23 Colin Larkin 3 scatter
24 Billy Greulich 4 keep
26 Armann Bjornsson 6 keep
27 Julian Cherel 6 keep
28 Dylan Purvis htfdik
29 Peter Hartley 6 keep
30 Joe Gamble 6 keep




* htfdik= how the fk do I know.

Chris Turner 2/10 scatter

7 keep

Only doing this as it is quiet and I'm bored. As I haven't got to any matches this season and you can't really judge from Poolsworld I have based my marks on tittle-tattle, irrational prejudice and the opinions of others. Same as most other posters then!

1 Scott Flinders 7/10 keep
2 Neil Austin 7/10Keep
3 Ritchie Humphreys 3/10 humanely destroyed
4 Gary Liddle 6/10 keep
5 Sam Collins 5/10 keep
6 Ben Clark 6/10 keep
7 Leon McSweeney 5/10 keep
8 Ritchie Jones 7/10 keep
9 Denis Behan 4/10 scatter
10 Adam Boyd 5/10 keep
11 Andy Monkhouse 6/10 keep
12 James Brown 7/10 keep (injuries allowed for)
14 Jonny Rowell 5/10 keep
15 Antony Sweeney 4/10 scatter
16 Steven Haslam no idea
18 Michael Mackay 2/10 scatter
19 Jon-Andre Fredriksen 4/10 keep you need some Scando input
20 Alan Power 4/10 keep but actually give him some games
21 Mark Cook no idea
22 Matty Tymon no idea
23 Colin Larkin 4/10 scatter
24 Billy Greulich no idea
26 Armann Bjornsson 4/10 scatter
27 Julian Cherel 5/10 keep due to Frenchness
28 Dylan Purvis no points but keep due to name
29 Peter Hartley 6/10 keep
30 Joe Gamble 7/10 keep

Looking at that squad we really should be doing a bit better...

1 Scott Flinders 7/10 keep
2 Neil Austin 8 keep
3 Ritchie Humphreys 4 scatter
4 Gary Liddle 6 keep
5 Sam Collins 5 scatter
6 Ben Clark only seen him play once this season.......he was shite....keep!
7 Leon McSweeney 5 keep
8 Ritchie Jones 7 keep
9 Denis Behan 3 scatter
10 Adam Boyd 6 keep
11 Andy Monkhouse 6 keep
12 James Brown I've seen 1 sub appearance.......keep though!!
14 Jonny Rowell never sen him play........n/a
15 Antony Sweeney 6 keep
16 Steven Haslam 4 scatter
18 Michael Mackay n/a scatter
19 Jon-Andre Fredriksen seen about 3 1/2 minutes of him [or summat daft like that] no point keeping him.....scatter
20 Alan Power n/a scatter [unless he has nappies to change......]
21 Mark Cook n/a keep
22 Matty Tymon n/a scatter
23 Colin Larkin 4 scatter
24 Billy Greulich 4 scatter
26 Armann Bjornsson 4 scatter
27 Julian Cherel never seen him.....keep
28 Dylan Purvis n/a scatter
29 Peter Hartley 6 keep
30 Joe Gamble 8 keep and make him the captain!!!

1 Scott Flinders 7/10 keep
2 Neil Austin 8.5/10 definitely keep
3 Ritchie Humphreys 5/10 unfortunately i think his time is up scatter
4 Gary Liddle 8/10 keep
5 Sam Collins 8/10 keep
6 Ben Clark 6/10 hasnt played much this season but still keep
7 Leon McSweeney 6/10 played marvellous at tranmere but otherwise havent been too impressed by him but still keep
8 Ritchie Jones 7/10 keep
9 Denis Behan 5/10 hasnt been too good but i think he will come good for us keep
10 Adam Boyd 6/10 has disappointed me a little so far but still keep
11 Andy Monkhouse 8/10 keep
12 James Brown keep if we can
14 Jonny Rowell hasnt featured much but definitely keep him he is going to be a great player
15 Antony Sweeney 5/10 unsure he has been better alongside gamble imo
16 Steven Haslam 4/10 scatter
18 Michael Mackay 0/10 scatter
19 Jon-Andre Fredriksen 4/10 hasnt played enough but looked okay at start of season so keep
20 Alan Power scatter
21 Mark Cook scatter
22 Matty Tymon think he is worth persevering with keep
23 Colin Larkin scatter
24 Billy Greulich keep
26 Armann Bjornsson 5/10 has been disappointing but he was brilliant against millwall at home keep
27 Julian Cherel unsure
28 Dylan Purvis no idea
29 Peter Hartley keep 6/10 think he is getting better
30 Joe Gamble 9/10 i really like him and think he could beome a great player for us definitely keep.

Cant believe so many want rid of Collins.

1 Scott Flinders 6/10 keep
2 Neil Austin 9 keep
3 Ritchie Humphreys 3 scatter
4 Gary Liddle 7 keep
5 Sam Collins 6 undecided
6 Ben Clark 6 keep
7 Leon McSweeney 6 keep
8 Ritchie Jones 6 keep
9 Denis Behan 4 scatter
10 Adam Boyd 6 keep
11 Andy Monkhouse 6 keep
12 James Brown 6 keep
14 Jonny Rowell ???
15 Antony Sweeney 5 scatter
16 Steven Haslam 6 scatter
18 Michael Mackay 4 scatter
19 Jon-Andre Fredriksen 6 undecided
20 Alan Power ???
21 Mark Cook ???
22 Matty Tymon ???
23 Colin Larkin 3 scatter
24 Billy Greulich 5 keep
26 Armann Bjornsson 6 keep
27 Julian Cherel 6 keep
28 Dylan Purvis ???
29 Peter Hartley 5 undecided (? keep as centre half)
30 Joe Gamble 6 keep

Why not?

At a guess I'd say that he's on a good few quid a week and I don't think that he's value for money.

By the way, have you seen our goals against stats this season?

1 Scott Flinders 7/10 keep
2 Neil Austin 8 keep
3 Ritchie Humphreys 3 scatter
4 Gary Liddle 7 keep
5 Sam Collins 6 undecided
6 Ben Clark 6 keep
7 Leon McSweeney 6 keep
8 Ritchie Jones 7 keep
9 Denis Behan 4 scatter
10 Adam Boyd 6 keep
11 Andy Monkhouse 7 keep
12 James Brown 6 keep
14 Jonny Rowell dunno
15 Antony Sweeney 5 scatter
16 Steven Haslam 6 scatter
18 Michael Mackay 4 scatter
19 Jon-Andre Fredriksen 5 scatter
20 Alan Power dunno
21 Mark Cook dunno
22 Matty Tymon dunno
23 Colin Larkin 6 keep
24 Billy Greulich 5 keep
26 Armann Bjornsson 6 keep
27 Julian Cherel 6 keep
28 Dylan Purvis ???
29 Peter Hartley 6 keep
30 Joe Gamble 7 keep

1 Scott Flinders 7/10 keep
2 Neil Austin 8 keep
3 Ritchie Humphreys 1 scatter
4 Gary Liddle 7 keep
5 Sam Collins 7 keep
6 Ben Clark 4 scatter
7 Leon McSweeney 5 keep
8 Ritchie Jones 7 keep
9 Denis Behan 5 scatter
10 Adam Boyd 6 keep
11 Andy Monkhouse 6 keep
12 James Brown 7 keep
14 Jonny Rowell keep
15 Antony Sweeney 6 keep
16 Steven Haslam 5 keep
18 Michael Mackay scatter
19 Jon-Andre Fredriksen dunno
20 Alan Power scatter
21 Mark Cook scatter
22 Matty Tymon dunno
23 Colin Larkin 5 scatter
24 Billy Greulich keep
26 Armann Bjornsson 5 keep
27 Julian Cherel 5 scatter
28 Dylan Purvis dunno
29 Peter Hartley 6 keep
30 Joe Gamble 7 keep

Jon-Andre Fredriksen lives in my sisters street, or at least I think so, just seen him running up and down the close

HTH, FWIW, TIA, BAG

1 Scott Flinders 7.5 - keep
2 Neil Austin – 8 keep (maybe captain?)
3 Ritchie Humphreys – 5 Give him youth-team role.
4 Gary Liddle – 7.5 keep
5 Sam Collins – 6.5 keep (just defend, leave football to Liddle)
6 Ben Clark - 6 keep
7 Leon McSweeney – 6 keep
8 Ritchie Jones – 6 (not all his own fault) keep
9 Denis Behan – 6 keep (badly looked after & played too many games before eventually dropped)
10 Adam Boyd – 6.5 keep (needs kick up backside)
11 Andy Monkhouse - 6 keep (lack of discipline is big problem)
12 James Brown – 7 keep
14 Jonny Rowell –6 send on loan to League Two if we still in League One (play more if we in League 2)
15 Antony Sweeney – 6 keep
16 Steven Haslam – 6 keep
18 Michael Mackay – 5 let go
19 Jon-Andre Fredriksen – 6 keep
20 Alan Power - ? keep - go on loan
21 Mark Cook - ? keep
22 Matty Tymon – ? keep – go on loan
23 Colin Larkin – 6 keep
24 Billy Greulich – 5 keep – go on loan
26 Armann Bjornsson – 5.5 keep
27 Julian Cherel – 7 (based only game I saw) keep
28 Dylan Purvis - ?
29 Peter Hartley – 6.5 keep
30 Joe Gamble – 8 keep, and as Salty said, make captain.


For next season centre-back partnerships should be either Liddle / Collins; Clark / Cherel; Liddle / Cherel; Collins / Clark (i.e. one footballer - one to just defend). Also Jones must be played centre-mid with Gamble. Brown needs to be up-front. Larkin & McSweeney mainly right wing, not on left – Fredriksen back up for Monky.

[quote="chip fireball"]knock yourselves out giving this lot a rating out of 10 based on this seasons performances followed by the word keep or scatter. i will start you off with the correct answer for the top one.


1 Scott Flinders 7/10 keep. Raw talent
2 Neil Austin 7/10 keep. Class act
3 Ritchie Humphreys 4/10 send out to stud
4 Gary Liddle 6/10 keep. Good start average since
5 Sam Collins 5/10 scatter. He's too inconsistent and
6 Ben Clark 4/10 keep. Unlucky not to feature this year
7 Leon McSweeney 5/10 keep. Deserves another go
8 Ritchie Jones 5/10 keep. Give him a chance
9 Denis Behan 5/10 keep. A propper pre season may help him
10 Adam Boyd 5/10 keep. Get him fit and focused
11 Andy Monkhouse 6/10 keep. Great first half sluggish since new year
12 James Brown 6/10 keep. watch him fly
14 Jonny Rowell 4/10 Needs a chance
15 Antony Sweeney 4/10 scatter how much more time can we give him
16 Steven Haslam 6/10 Looks solid
18 Michael Mackay 1/10 Scatter see ya later
19 Jon-Andre Fredriksen 2/10 Scatter back to scandinavia
20 Alan Power 2/10 ScatterWhy did we sign him
21 Mark Cook N/A
22 Matty Tymon N/A
23 Colin Larkin 4/10 Scatter out of depth
24 Billy Greulich 3/10 hope he's not another mackay
26 Armann Bjornsson 3/10 Scatter send him back
27 Julian Cherel 6/10 looks a prospect and could replace Sam Collins
28 Dylan Purvis N/A
29 Peter Hartley 5/10 Shell shocked but looks like a footballer
30 Joe Gamble 8/10 How good is he? What a season he could have next year

We're conceding too many - a small part of the blame lies with the midfield, which was terrible defensively, but Gamble changes that significantly.

Then you have to look at the back four -

Austin - I've been going over 15 years and I can't remember us having a better right back (excluding Jon Bass)

Liddle - good footballer, suprisingly competent in his first season at the back - will get better as well

Collins - Vital for Liddle to be alongside a physical presence and Sam's been that, but he's looked increasingly shaky and is not mobile enough to recover from mistakes

Hartley - Shown promise in his first season in league football IMHO. Not even in his best position. Struggled at times but will get better.

And Flinders, all you can really fault him on is communication/confidence issues with the defence, and that could be their fault as much as his.

So from them, particularly looking forward, Collins is the obvious one we have to replace.

I haven't seen enough games live to really comment. However most people want to keep most of the players which leaves little scope for cutting budgets or bringing in new players. This suggests that the players are considered good enough. If the players are good enough then the fault lies elsewhere (no prizes for attributing the blame). After two seasons of struggle drastic surgery is required. Over to you Uncle Ken.

55 goals went through Sam Collins??

Obviously I don't go so do advise.......

No to be fair it's only 42 !!

1 Scott Flinders 6/10 keep
2 Neil Austin 8/10 keep
3 Ritchie Humphreys 5/10 scatter
4 Gary Liddle 6/10 keep
5 Sam Collins 5/10 scatter
6 Ben Clark 6/10 keep
7 Leon McSweeney 5/10 scatter
8 Ritchie Jones 6/10keep
9 Denis Behan 3/10scatter
10 Adam Boyd 5/10 scatter
11 Andy Monkhouse 6/10 keep
12 James Brown 8/10 keep
14 Jonny Rowell 6/10 keep
15 Antony Sweeney 4/10 scatter
16 Steven Haslam 4/10 scatter
18 Michael Mackay 4/10 scatter
19 Jon-Andre Fredriksen 6/10 unsure
20 Alan Power 5/10 scatter
21 Mark Cook 6/10 unsure
22 Matty Tymon 6/10 unsure
23 Colin Larkin 4/10 scatter
24 Billy Greulich 6/10 keep
26 Armann Bjornsson 4/10 scatter
27 Julian Cherel 6/10 unsure
28 Dylan Purvis 6/10 unsure
29 Peter Hartley 5/10 just keep for his use as a centre back
30 Joe Gamble 7/10 keep

Doesn't leave many

I think Collins would have faired better with a proper left back in the team, his first season was difficult with personal problems and playing in a team without recognized full-backs. This season he has looked fitter but has limited pace, which the better sides expose, though he has
not been at fault for the majority of goals conceded.

Thing is big, mobile, quick centre-halfs dont come cheap.

Put it this way if turner took notice of peoples views on here who to keep we'd definitely go down next season.
Probably with less than 30 points.

1 Scott Flinders 7/10 keep
2 Neil Austin 8/10 keep
3 Ritchie Humphreys 4/10 scatter (ambassador/coach?)
4 Gary Liddle 6/10 keep
5 Sam Collins 5/10 scatter
6 Ben Clark 6/10 keep
7 Leon McSweeney 6/10 keep
8 Ritchie Jones 7/10 keep
9 Denis Behan 6/10 keep
10 Adam Boyd 6/10 keep
11 Andy Monkhouse 7/10 keep
12 James Brown 7/10 keep
14 Jonny Rowell 5/10 keep
15 Antony Sweeney 5/10 scatter
16 Steven Haslam 5/10 scatter
18 Michael Mackay scatter
19 Jon-Andre Fredriksen 5/10 scatter
20 Alan Power scatter
21 Mark Cook scatter
22 Matty Tymon scatter
23 Colin Larkin 5/10 scatter
24 Billy Greulich 5/10 keep
26 Armann Bjornsson 5/10 keep
27 Julian Cherel 6/10 keep
28 Dylan Purvis not heard of him
29 Peter Hartley 6/10 keep
30 Joe Gamble 7/10 keep

i put keep for nearly all our main strikers yet they cant score for shit

1 Scott Flinders 6/10 keep
2 Neil Austin 7/10 keep
3 Ritchie Humphreys 6/10 keep for his influence on the other players
4 Gary Liddle 7/10 keep
5 Sam Collins 8/10 keep at any cost
6 Ben Clark 5/10 keep if he's cheap scatter if he isn't
7 Leon McSweeney 5/10 keep if he's cheap scatter if he isn't
8 Ritchie Jones 6/10 keep if he's reasonable in demands
9 Denis Behan 5.5 keep
10 Adam Boyd 6/10 keep
11 Andy Monkhouse 6/10
12 James Brown 6/10 keep
14 Jonny Rowell - how can anyone tell?
15 Antony Sweeney 4/10 scatter
16 Steven Haslam - how could anyone tell?
18 Michael Mackay - scatter
19 Jon-Andre Fredriksen - 5.5/10 keep one more year to see if he can force his way into the side
20 Alan Power - scatter
21 Mark Cook - how can anyone tell
22 Matty Tymon - how can anyone tell
23 Colin Larkin - 5/10 scatter
24 Billy Greulich - keep if cheap for one more year
26 Armann Bjornsson - 4/10 scatter - 6'5" who jumps 4'6"
27 Julian Cherel - 5/10 keep one more year if cheap
28 Dylan Purvis - how can anyone tell
29 Peter Hartley - 6/10 keep
30 Joe Gamble - 6.5/10 keep

i know this is all about opinions, but anyone who has given joe gamble any less than a 7 is a nutter.

I have seen people give mcsweeney more than collins and flinders.

Fooking hell some people know nowt

I would have said scatter McSweeney but I went to Tranmere on Friday night and thought that he was extremely effective at right back. I could even make a case out that he was our best player.
I then found out that, at Stockport, he played most of his games at right wing back. He played THIRTY FIVE games for Stockport in that position last season.
He has had to wait until game thirty six before he got a chance in that position under Turner, even though Turner started the season with Haslam at right back. Barnsley fans have always said that Austin was as good , if not better, at left back. So there is food for thought during the next pre season.
Also now that Hartley has got games under his belt at league one level and is acquainted with the pace, speed and tempo of this league, maybe it would be prudent to give him a pre season at centre back, his natural position.
Sam Collins isn't getting any younger and maybe the way forward could be a Liddle/ Hartley partnership..........one right footed and one left footed.
So we could have a back four of McSweeney Liddle Hartley Austin to experiment with. Unless of course we bring in better.
Joe Gamble sitting in front of them.............alongside Jones.
The rest of the line up would depend on what system we decided to play.

I think this is where it has all fallen down this season as unfortunately I don't think Turner has a clue what system he wants to play.

What, Turner has a system?

Without a doubt.
The problem is we can discuss line ups and tactics till we are blue in the face. Turner just doesn't understand but even more crucially he is unable to read what the opposition managers/coaches are about. It takes a footballer to have the ability to read a game and exploit weaknesses, gaps and strengths etc. Turner doesn't even know the strengths and weaknesses of his own players.
McSweeney had to bang on his door for the chance to play in his most effective position. So so so so frustrating and it must be even worse for the players, especially flair players.

We are all listing players we would scatter but we must remember that we are judging these players under a manager who hasn't got a clue.
Liddle would not be at centre back if Clark hadn't been injured.

His influence has been half the fuck ing problem.

concurring fully

What sort of influence does he have like pde?

I just dont know what humps was meant to be doing

Turner says publically that he uses Humphreys as an example to the young players.

He feels Humphreys displays, better than any other player that he has worked with, genuine professionalism. His attitude and work level in training, his lifestyle and his determination to make the very most of his talents are all apparently exemplary.

Ritchie can now be best used I think in a Micky Barron type roll. Playing when we are short but mostly used for his positive influence on other players.

And yes I know that we are now going to get a repeat of him orchestrating the removal of a manager stuff to indicate that he isn't professional.

Well, I've always found it odd that when Ben Clark brings to an end the reign of one useless manager he is applauded. When other pros are part of the removal of a manager who has lost the plot, control of their ermm 'refuelling habits' and the dressing room that is somehow appalling - even traitorous.

What utter shite.

is this the rating according to chip thread like

1 Scott Flinders 6/10 Keep
2 Neil Austin 8/10 keep
3 Ritchie Humphreys 5/10 Scatter
4 Gary Liddle 7/10 Keep (But can we see him in midfield?)
5 Sam Collins 6/10 Keep
6 Ben Clark 4/10 Scatter
7 Leon McSweeney 5/10 Scatter
8 Ritchie Jones 8/10 (9.5/10 on his day) Keep
9 Denis Behan 6/10 Keep (Could be good as a target man/spoiler when fit)
10 Adam Boyd 4/10 Scatter (Lots of ability but his strike rate and effort don't match it)
11 Andy Monkhouse 7/10 keep
12 James Brown 8/10 keep
14 Jonny Rowell no idea/10 if we can see him play then keep
15 Antony Sweeney 4/10 scatter
16 Steven Haslam 4/10 scatter
18 Michael Mackay is there a score below 1?/10 scatter
19 Jon-Andre Fredriksen 6/10 Keep
20 Alan Power slightly less than Mackay/10 Scatter
21 Mark Cook Never seen him Scatter
22 Matty Tymon as above
23 Colin Larkin 3/10 at best Scatter
24 Billy Greulich 5/10 Worth trying
26 Armann Bjornsson 4/10 Scatter
27 Julian Cherel 5/10 Keep
28 Dylan Purvis ?
29 Peter Hartley 6/10 keep (Probably a good prospect if he is in position but learn to pass the ball to your team mates)
30 Joe Gamble 8/10 Turners best signing

Actually none of that matters, on paper we have a squad with enough decent players in it to put out several combinations that should compete in this league. What I really struggle understand is how we can have a Centre Half at Left Back, a striker playing on the right wing, with a left winger playing up front, a player that joined the club as a striker and is past his best playing on the left wing, a midfielder in a centre half position (and that was just against Tranmere).

Surely the lads at the club have spent their career to this point learning to be forwards, midfielders, defenders etc so it stands to reason that they will do their best work in those slots. If that isn't the answer then motivation and attitude must need addressing. Either way the manager and coaching staff need changing, if that isn't an option and the fault is that the players aren't good enough in their natural positions then they need to go as do any of those responsible for bringing them in.

I know very little about the technical/coaching side of football and have no aspiration to learn but if I use what I do know (Fantasy Manager games) then you pick your defence from a pot of defenders, etc.

"Playing when we are short"

It's not a fooking Sunday morning league!!

I suspect that Danny Wilson forgot his tombola.

But if you go wild and actually think about it- you don't keep two first string quality players in every position in the team because you can't afford it and they get demotivated.

But say you had an excellent pro who could cover 3 or 4 positions as well as being a massively-experienced positive influence in the camp then that might be useful.

But we don't have such a player. we have someone who has been a liability in every position he has played for the past three years. Scatter and scatter quickly.

pde147 I'm a fan of Ritchie and think he's a great servant to the club and has been a fine player, but I have watched him play in the last year. He's simply not up to League One, that is the brutal reality. I'm all for sentiment and looking after players properly but a time comes for every player it did with Mark Tinkler, Micky Barron, and Williams all people who I hold in the same regard as Humps.

It's pretty criminal that he's guaranteed a spot in the 18 when someone like Jonny Rowell has reached the age 20 1/2 having started 3 league games, someone like him must be getting seriously itchy feet. Hopefully he doesn't become disillusioned with game.

What do you want for the club, sentiment or progress?