But you include a shit load of if's in there.

Also last season we seemed to have stirkers that knew where the net was. How many games this season have we failed to take chances?

Its nice to know that even though we are really shite there are another 4 clubs really really shite.
Its not going to bring back the missing fans or improve performances on the pitch but its still comforting to know.

To be honest, that just proves it is as bad as I thought. One of the reason I have failed to get excited about this season, refused to chuck money aimlessly at them and missed more games than I have in the last 5 years is because I knew it was going to be exactly the same as last season.

The fact that there has been such little improvement after the money that has been thrown at the squad just proves something is disastorously wrong in the hierarchy at the club.

Supposing we lose on Saturday, we are 5 points worse off than last season. A season where we stayed up by default by the skin of our teeth.

But recently the midfield finally looks like they know what they're doing, and we have a more solid defence, certainly in terms of goals conceded.

All of our forwards and most of the midfielders are capable of scoring when we play well, and O'Donovan will be important in the run-in.

We've underachieved big time this season through tactical ineptitude, lack of balance in the squad, lack of confidence, whatever else, but if Turner has any managerial capabilities whatsoever, he'll have them playing to their potential for the rest of the season and we'll be well safe before the last day. If not, then god help us.

Of course Saturday's game is important. We're 3 points off a relegation spot and have won away from home since Dave Mcreery was in charge.

I personally won't be giving out any credit to anyone if we finish off 'marginally' better than last season as I think it'd be undeserved. You may have noticed but we signed about 3 million players in the Summer, regardless of the fact that the top handful of teams are strong outfits, I don't think a 'marginal' improvement is grounds to be happy.

The league MAY be stronger BUT the current manager has had a LOT more backing than other managers and our wage bill will be much higher yet we are still staring precariously at the bottom of the table. A lot of fans have given up on the club largely because of the reluctance to appoint a manager. Last season we survived (just) with the two clowns in goal so for you to say this season has been better despite this fact and the financial backing CT has had I find crazy.

But, I suppose you are in "the glass is half full mode this week"

I dont think we are "better off"

After 33 games last season we were 15th, 7 points clear of 4th bottom, -6 goal difference and played either one or two more games more than the teams below us.

After 33 points this season we are 17th, 3 points clear of 4th bottom, -10 goal difference and the team that are 4th bottom have got 2 games in hand on us. Our game in hand over Gillingham is against Southamptom which we will lose.

Win, lose or draw on Saturday we will not be better off than this point last season.

I have done and it was as equally as stupid as the first time I read it.

I just dont think we WILL be better off when you look at the bigger picture even if we do win on saturday. We are in a relegation battle despite CT being able to assemble a whole new squad. How can things improve any more for the coming season? If Tubby is still in charge then things are no better are they. If we do appoint a manager then his hands will be tied with Turners signings.

In the grand scheme of things we are not better off certainly not in the medium/long term.

The damage has been done this season whether we survive by the skin of our teeth or not.

The fans renewed optimism at the start of this season was misplaced and I see no reason to believe CT will do better over coming seasons. He surely cant be given more funding?

Stupidest thread for a long time.

hth

why do an essay when a sentence suffices

Why is everyone missing the point last season was a disaster and with the money and new players pumped into the club we shouldn't even be discussing this. All goes to show Tubby is wrong man for the job.

Its like compairing white dog poo to brown dog poo, they are silghtly different but still shit.

I agree with the majority of folks on here.... what is there to be happy about?
I've made my feelings known about the stagnation that is strangling HUFC - if one prerson left the club today all the gloom and despondency would lift... but he's not going anywhere unless it's in a wooden box
Well at least I can always hope..............

This time last season Dibble was calling the previous manager worse than shyte, the players were kunts and he was crying in his beer every weekend.

A load of investment later, an even worse league position and he wants us all doing cartwheels.

I actually don't think sacking Turner would help us unless we've got someone else lined up to take charge. It certainly didn't help in 2006 (though admittedly it was the current tart in charge).

IOR won't appoint someone overnight and I expect CT to leave in the Summer, not now regardless of results.

the club has to see sense in the summer
Certain players need moving on, and a new manager brought in who can get the best out of the squad
Otherwise it will be embarrassing for them whenever they entertain the owners' corporate business clients, and the away fans regularly outnumber the home fans

I'm not at all confident - this is exactly the type of game if Southend go for it from the off and Pools can't raise their game we could find ourselves 2 down before half time, and end up getting beat 2-1 or whatever because of poor motivation, tactical ineptitude, poor subs etc - basically everything that has blighted Pools since Turner has been in charge

I really hope I'm wrong about that assertion - but even though I'm saying it 4 days before the match I still would not be surprised to see it materialise

I think we will win 3-1, but I have had fizzy pop with dinner

please may you be right - if ever a team desperately needed the boost of 3 points against a relegation rival it's us

Stop biting!

Dibble does this once in a while after their lass gives him his quarterly one off the wrist. He wakes up in the morning full of optimism and posts some 'up and at 'em' drivel.

Pools losing 1-0 at Millwall is not the one to pull your hair out about, its games against the bottom half dozen that we need to be worrying more about. I feel no afinity to Pools at the moment and I suspect that this will be the first season since 1971 that I have not attended a single game.

but nobody at the club seems even bothered about things like that John!! Why is that? And it's not just long suffering fans like you who have taken a break from proceedings

If ever proof were needed that the chairman's mates are more important to him than the well being of the club, then this season has surely provided it