Honestly when we lose I'm just going to stop reading them, actually I think I might altogether some of this weekends pearlers;

"We're not looking at the play offs or promotion"

No shit Sherlock

"We can stand up to it. If we had lost 4-0 people would have thought we were a pretty side who can't compete but we can compete"



We've lost eight away games in a row Chris, if we lose the next one it will be our worst away run for 25 years I want to know why we lost, not someone talking as if it was a good result because we only lost 1-0.

He also says;

"We totally outplayed Bristol Rovers away from home the other week, this was a different sort of game on a difficult pitch"

It wasn't that different, we lost and we failed to score. No points away since October is a total and utter disgrace. Finally;

"We are growing as a team"

We had more points this time last year, how does that qualify as growth? Too many words, actually produce some results and a few people might start to believe this. It is a results game.

How he is still in a job is a foooking very large puzzle.
Do IOR read his post match comments, if they do they must surely know he's lost the plot.
He really needs to either resign or sacked.
This can't go on. It's an insult to the people who travelled down on Saturday.

If a 1-0 defeat is a good result, we could have a good season of results and get no points. Wake up Mr. Turner, getting beat is not a good result. Sometimes he'd be better saying nothing. He talks shyte.

you know what i do, or should that be dont....

i don't take anything said by any football manager seriously.

They are spin doctors nowadays and anything said should be took with a pinch of salt

He goes on about us 'growing' and making progress but I see no evidence at all of this.

Yes we've got some canny players but the most important thing is results, he doesn't seem to be able to grasp that at we are in a worse position than we were a year ago after him signing 14 players.

He says things like tactics aren't important then starts waxing lyrical about playing 4-5-1 then ditches it after three weeks. He decides we lack pace in the team in late February when people watching have been saying it all season. He never takes responsibility for a defeat

It all points towards someone who doesn't know what he is doing.

His best I thought (if the Mail quotes him right) is "There would'nt be many teams who would have stopped us on Saturday".

Stopped us what?, getting beat again. Yeah possibly Durham City, or Montrose perhaps?

I understand that but he is comparing two very different performances one were we played football one were we scrapped. In his head he is comparing two performances were he felt we were good for different reasons but we lost both games and didn't score. It would be normal for manager of a team doing well to compare to very different victories, but he is comparing defeats as if we did well for different reasons in both games. I want to know why and how we lost the games if we were that good? I'd struggle to find something positive to say about the goals we shipped at Bristol, the free header from six yards for example for the first goal. That was an awful goal to concede. All we here about is how great we were and amazement at how we lost, if you gift people free headers for six yards you are going to lose a few.

No wonder we don’t have a winning mentality within the first team at the moment, they get patted on the back when they lose.

This guy never ceases to amaze me with his stupid stupid comments.
Give it up, Chris. You are officially now a laughing stock. The problem is what you are doing is not a laughing matter.

Scotty gave the public the same bullshit as well, and now Turner is doing it for the same reasons - he knows this is his last job in football so he'll say anything to keep it - whether anything he says bears any semblance to reality or not

Sorry you're in after that post.

See you in Clarence Road on Saturday I'll bring the torches you bring the matches.

if Pools get beat Saturday, and it is evidently down to the usual shite management, then I can't see how people will just go home peacefully and not let their feelings be known

Even Turner must know that he is under even more pressure than before the Carlisle game, and that nothing less than 3 points will placate the fans

A draw against these is not the end of the world, but the psychological effect of not beating these at home will be a big blow to the squad.

I didn't post it at the time but I give you my favourite of all his recent musings just after our 2-1 loss at Norwich;

“If we had taken our chances in the last four games we would have drawn at Charlton, beaten Bristol Rovers, beaten Gillingham and had at least a draw at Norwich – promotion form."

Why not? Is it because you are in your pro-HUFC mode right now?

The guy is a clown. Ok so his responses are probably typical football management 'speak' but thats exactly what CT wasnt when he first signed. He had a good rapport and honesty about his opinion. Now you just cant trust a word he says. Thats presuming the Mail quote him correctly, like.

it's straight from the mail's book of billy horner quotes - "Post match reporting the easy way"

Clarence Road you say? Mr Spender and I will pay for the spray paint...

You change your opinion from one extreme to the other from one week to the next. one week the club cant do no right, the next week they cant do no wrong. refusing to slag off turner! god forbid, you ever do that. until your next change of mind obviously.

I would be there to shake his hand but at the moment I want to shake his neck. Hopefully we will win on Saturday I cant wait and will be there, if we loose I dont know if the croud will turn against him.

Chris why cant you see it we respect what you have done for our club and in my eyes you are a Pools legend, but like your prodigal son Richie learn to leave with dignity and you will be remembered in the correct way. Simply carrying on aimlessly like a blind man on a tight-rope is making you a laughing stock and driving Pools a club that I and surely Turner loves into the depths of dispaire.

Will the crowd turn on him? There seems to be no point, he can be as piss poor as he wants and slag us off in the media but at the end of the day he is unsackable and knows it.

It's the slagging off of the fans that gets my goat. I want him to succeed with Pools and prove the doubters wrong, but he won't make many friends and gain support by turning on the supporters.

yet you are turning round here and saying that you are not going to slag him off as if that somehow makes you better than others on here.

Like I said in my post, you change your stance every other week. One minute you are compaining just like the rest and the next minute you are moaning that people are not getting behind the club/the manager.



Good for you but im not that forgiving or fickle enough. It will take continued progress under CT for me to think he is the right man for the job and get behind him. Even if we stay up this season, it has still been a failure, we should never have been in this position with the backing he has had.



I want to see us avoid the drop but I want rid of Turner. We WILL ultimately fail with him in charge. His record speaks for itself. If we replace him with anyone half competent then im sure we will progress.



We can all 'move on' when he demonstrates that he makes amends for any mistakes. Up to now he hasnt done anything to change the opinion that he is not the man for the job. Has he apologised to the fans who he moans at?? You 'move on' as you put it because your stance simply swaps from one extreme to the next every other week.



I dont know if you are classing myself as a 'lemming' but I would argue im probably the least bit like a lemming than everyone else on here. I get grief all the time for my views but I dont just mirror the opinions of some of the more vocal posters on here such as yourself.

I have been quite outspoken for a long time regarding my views about the current "manager" (I use that word loosely) and my opinion wont alter on the basis of a freak victory or one encouraging performance.

If CT turns it around both on the pitch and in his relationship with the fans. [When I say 'turns it around' I mean over a continued period and gets us up the table, not merely surviving relegation by the skin of our teeth] then I would give him credit for that but a few decent results here and there wont suffice. He has done little this season to make me feel any different.

The question is how long we give him. He has been a failure everywhere he has been and why would it suddenly change. You may have more optimism in him than me (Well, Im certain pretty much everybody on here will ).

Im 'behind' the club but my support IS waning, not just as a result of the manager but ALSO the crazy reluctance of the club to appoint a proper manager. The club has made the same mistakes yet again but the old pals act at the club takes precedence even to the detriment of the club itself (though lost fans) which I find criminal given the supposed 'business' mentality.

totally agree with grave get him out before its to late

Pools are like a ship with Captain Turner in charge, he hasn't quite mastered the steering, it goes around in circles then heads for the rocks. He calls the passengers because they naturally want to go somewhere eventually and continues to shuffle the crew ... and all the while the Admiral turns a blind eye smiling benignly and looking to the far horizon. The cruise of the damned continues and the passengers slip quietly over the side and swim for the shore .....the sound of dissenting voices isn't dying down because you've sorted things out Cap'n...it's because they've all gone.
Season overboard.

Just found this on the text highlights on BBC one day special, from a Snowy another nautical theme, and fits with Turners thinking:

"If at first you don't succeed, get a new crew' (Captain Pugwash, 1975)"