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 Post subject: Cant understand why Premier League clubs are so special
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:44 pm 
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What a cheek this is, "Premier League chiefs are hoping to push through dramatic emergency measures to ensure Portsmouth stay afloat and fulfil their fixtures this season — and their survival could depend on the 19 other teams in England’s top division."

Other league clubs dont get helped out so why Pompey sctatchinghead

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... eline.html

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 Post subject: Re: Cant understand why Premier League clubs are so special
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:49 pm 
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probably because they dont want the image of their 'brand' tarnished by financial mismanagement.

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 Post subject: Re: Cant understand why Premier League clubs are so special
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:56 pm 
If Portsmouth went bust now the financial implications would be massive to other clubs. The league table would change for example Liverpool's position being strengthened hugely as they actually lost to Portsmouth. Each league position sees a significant difference in prize money but no more than 4th place which sees Champions League football and £20+ in the coffers. Then you also have the other end of the table.

It's down to money, again, but if Pompey can't fulfil their fixtures you are looking at a potential mess.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:59 pm 
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yeah but its bollocks, also wont all the teams have to agree for this to go through I cant see Liverpool, spurs or villa agreeing as there positions are better without Pompey in the league

also as they have played them they have recieved the money through the gate so wont loose anything

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:05 pm 
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if clubs are prepared to see the sacrifice of another one just to further their own interest for one season - then the game is definitely finished
Without opponents, what exactly IS a football club?

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 Post subject: Re: Cant understand why Premier League clubs are so special
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:08 pm 
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yeah but why should Pompey be above Cardiff, South end etc the Premier League wouldnt bail them out. Also the league are doing nothing to prevent this outlandish spending, so it will happen again and again.

" Although the Premier League have never lost a member to liquidation, it is a myth that
clubs do not go bust in English football.

Aldershot dropped out of the Football League in March 1992 and all their results were declared null and void, and the following season Maidstone United failed to start the campaign for financial reasons.
The demise of these clubs is the reason the top four divisions still number 92 teams, not 94"

So were was there help then

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:09 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Cant understand why Premier League clubs are so special
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:14 pm 
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the point I made was about seeing the demise of another club as a good thing for short term gain

I would rather Pools were relegated than see Southend go bust

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 Post subject: Re: Cant understand why Premier League clubs are so special
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:15 pm 
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Brilliant comment on at the bottom of the page

"I fear that Richard Scudamore is making an error of judgement here. Pompey have got themselves into this predicament through poor management and financial dealings. To find a way out when HMRC et al had said in court this week that the club appeared to be trading when it should not be only complicates the issue and brings the PL into serious disrepute.

I think a club like West Ham who were victims of the financial crash in Iceland will feel particularly aggrieved.

Portsmouth FC is not a premiership club in facilities, organisation or quality, so the sooner it is removed to a level commensurate with itself the better."

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:19 pm 
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Its funny how it takes one of the so called elite to get into bother for the FA to get its finger out. They dont give a toss about the smaller clubs.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:19 pm 
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aye run that one past me again.......? sctatchinghead

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 Post subject: Re: Cant understand why Premier League clubs are so special
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:33 pm 
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The problem with the Premiership is that the game is strong but the teams are weak.

A League which only three clubs can realistically win; financial scandals, a huge gap between the rich and the rest.

Most on here will remember Channel 4's coverage of Serie A, with James Richardson, like Sky now, it threatened to become the televised game of choice for football fans.

A season was delayed for a fortnight with clubs arguing over television deals. I can see that happening here soon as the rich want more.

Remember Fiorentina who went bust in 2002 and began again three flights down, in Serie C2.

Napoli, have gone bust and been relegated to Serie C. There was even a danger that the capital, Rome, would have no club in senior football, as both Lazio and Roma were walloped with financial crises.

Other Serie A clubs have been beset by a disease familiar over here. Known as "living the dream", the condition generally affects clubs just below the rich and successful few, which overspend in doomed attempts to compete. Portsmouth currently being in that situation. An independent financial advisor reckoned they have had income of £80 Million since winning the FA Cup in 2008. (Season tickets, playing in Europe, player sales etc)

The maddening part of this, is that the bust has been fashioned from a boom. Like the English league now, Italian football reaped huge windfalls from cable and digital TV.

Just a few years ago, Italians talked of 'Le Sette Sorelle', the seven sisters, Juve, Milan, Inter, Fiorentina, Parma, Roma and Lazio, all contenders for the title," "Now, the competitive balance has gone. Like here only a small number of clubs (3 possibly 4 in a few years,I'm adding Man C) will be capable of winning the League

The Premiership have fought hard to retain collective selling, but it still distributes the cash in favour of the already rich, leading to a very un-English concentration of playing power in Manchester United, Arsenal and the Russian freak show at Chelsea, and now the Arab freak show of Man C which still tantalises other clubs to gamble. (Leeds, Norwich, Southampton, Portsmouth, Charlton the list goes on)

The Premiership is a breakaway league, and that inequality underlies the Football League's huge recent problems. (Darlington, Bournemouth, Rotherham, Chester that list is even more endless)

Only when a club goes bust in the Premiership will that change, maybe the sooner it does the better for the game.

But I doubt it will as the "big clubs" will just see it as 1 less side to get a share of any money.

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 Post subject: Re: Cant understand why Premier League clubs are so special
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:11 pm 
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The problem as I see it will get bigger if the premier league or its member clubs bail out the likes of Pompey.

The fact that there would be a precedent that if you get into trouble then help is around the corner would only encourage these clubs like Pompey to take even more risks.

I've often thought that a levy from each club kept in a pot to help clubs who fall on hard times would be a good idea. It would be a good idea on paper until clubs started abusing it.

The first thing that ought to happen is the moneyed owed to the inland revenue ought not to be allowed above a certain level.
Any club going above that level should be deducted points.
Why the hell should the taxpayer ( us ) bail out bad management.

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