now, I dont usually bother with my thoughts on pools much, cos other people say it more eloquently and intelligently than me, but........


When Tamworth beat us a few years back it was a watershed moment for me with Ma**in Sc**t one that I and he never recovered from, we should have acted right then and got rid and we might have saved our season.

Today I feel a similar vibe.
I don't hate Turner in the slightest [whereas i loathed Sc**t] but I just don't think he is up to the job anymore.

We need a manager now, and we might get something out of this season other than another relegation scrap.





Flinders 7 some great saves, really kept us in it
Austin 6
Collins 3
Liddle 3
Hartley 5 - some great shots from him - on another day..........
Monkhouse 1
Humphreys 2
Sweeney 0.5
Larkin 7 my motm despite calling him shiite early doors, played really well and our only attacking threat
Boyd 0
Behan -5 utterly shiit, legend my arse - I've never seen the bugger play well!!

Jones 4 looked athreat when he came on
Gruelich 1



harsh ratings but what that shower of shite deserve!!!

not happy
reluctantly, Turner Out

Thought liddle was good but apart from that spot on.

he lost 2 points for his missed header!!!

Did Behan get 5 because he tucked his shirt in right?

He was the worst player on the pitch today

Edit: Doesn't matter, I took the "-" to be a spacer not a minus!

ah well pointed out, i was wondering how he could give him a 5 after that. The single most dis-interested performance from a Pools player since K Parker last season.

Denis deserves to be dropped. Boyd & Brown for Saturday please Mr Turner

Hang on a minute - Behan might have been crap but Boyd was only just marginally better - and I think most people expected far more from him.

I didnt see liddle do anything wrong today. Usual calm self and tried to play the ball out of defence at times.

so we drop them both and make our strikeforce piss poor?

Boyd was poor but at least he is capable of scoring and setting up goals on a regular basis, i'm pretty sure he will be 'up' for the game next week

I thought giving 1 to Monkhouse was a tad generous to be honest. I know he wasn't the only one but he never contributed a thing all afternoon. We had Friedriksson on the bench who has never played in the first team in his natural position of left wing. Considering how bad Monkhouse was performing why didn't we replace him with Freddy? He might have given us a bit of energy in the second half when we needed it - he played very well in that position when I saw him play for the reserves...give the lad a chance.

I agree. i thought Liddle was alright today.

Come back Joel.

Trouble is they should be up for the game no matter who they play wish i was on their wages doing sweet bugger all at times.Only certain players not the full team i mean they know who they are

I agree thats where turner got it wrong for me if monkys having one of his days throw freddy on why did it not happen

Well I agree that today was gash. But I strongly disagree with the original posters rating off Liddle, how can you give the lad a 3?! He hardly put a foot wrong, very calm and assured on the ball and playing everything to feet, he wasn't culpable at all for the dross happening ahead of him.
Behan and Boyd were terrible, both 0 or 1. Behans confidence has been drained and he needs 'resting'. Boyd is the single most frustrating player to play for pools, he has many games like today were he offers nothing at all, then next week he will score! But my patience with him is wearing thin, he was a disgrace today
Now Sweeney and Humprheys, OMG fucking get shot of them, fucking rubbish. Sweeney it is time to be loaned out to get some match practice somewhere else. Humphreys just doesn't cut it in the centre of midfield. Both of them were terrible and do not deserve to be in the team next week.
Larkin had a decent game, possibly our best player.
Jones looked very good when coming on, he didnt seem to be struggling with any knocks or owt!! Infact he was flying around!
Monkhouse had an anonymous 1st period but IMO he was a bit better in the 2nd half, 4 from me.
Collins made a few glaring mistakes which nearly cost us more goals, looked a bit shaky. Austin did ok, Hartley did ok. Flinders did ok.
Turner gets a 0 from me though, fucking hell i was fexed!! Throwing on a fucking first season player, to try and salvage something from that shite was unforgivable, fuck sake he had a centre forward on the bench with international experience. The forwards rightly needed dragging off, but gruelich shouldnt have had to come on and play amongst that
And what does Frederickson have to do to get a game? Fuck sake surely he must get a place in the 1st team next week after that!!! Has he riled Turner or something because he is a more gifted player than some of those on the pitch today but doesn't get a look in
If turner persists with his 'bum boys' next week, the club will have lost one more from the gate.

Considering he was played out of position all day he fookin did well. First half your most creative midfield player, who all season has occupied the LEFT wing berth, was TOTALLY ISOLATED on the RIGHT wing, why?

If Flinders had played right back would any one have noticed?
cos this is what Turner did today [played pools joint top league scorer, from his regular role, OUT OF POSITION] and got away with it, how? Monkey does not deserve the 1 Turner deserves the fookkin sack.

That was me, as you know, and my football knowledge is considerably better than yours.

As has been proved in the past

Boydy has a better goals to starts ratio than Porter.

How many goals has Porter scored this season for his club?

Porter has never had the misfortune to play alongside Behan up-front.

Who is Pools top scorer this season?

Who has set the most goals up for Pools this season?

i bet around 90% would say Porter.

I bet about 99%. Comparing Boyd to Porter is like comparing Sweeney to foooking Fabregas.

Nah, just compare their goalscoring records and you'll come up with the answer

yes, maybe i was a bit harsh on Liddle, I did say i docked him 2 pointsfor his missed header!! 5 really...I was very upset yesterday. I swore in front of my son, unforgivable

Turner said on the radio that it was his gameplan to have Larkin and monkhouse on the wrong flanks, he felt his gameplan worked. He is an idiot.


Also Behan got minus 5, I know you[whoever] realised this, but surely reading my remarks on him might have given you a clue as to his mark....

ho hum, this is why i dont post my footy thoughts!

Hayes was class yes?!

I dont know whats wrong with Behan. I've truly seen better performances on Grayfields than the one yesterday.

However, he was a lot better than this in his first few games.

Mind, so was Boydy. Another one going through the motions.

However Boydy should have stopped on, replacing him with a midfielder

Jones however should have started. If he is fit enough for the bench.

He cant have done worse than the invisible man.

Yeah agreed... Jonesy should have started. As people have said, Plenty of frustrations from yesterday, Monkhouse was wasted on the RIGHT wing, you could see sometimes he did move across to the left for the ball. The Centre Midfield was non existant, Sweeney and Humph were awful. Jones (Our best midfielder) in recent games comes on and is put on the right wing, criminal.

I still would have kept Boydy on the field, Yes he wasnt affective but a player like Boydy can be like that and pop up with a vital goal. Felt sorry for Greulich thats not gonna do his confidence any good. Fredriksen should be given a chance, He looks tidy in front of goal (If the pre-match warm ups are anything to go by).

Turners motivational skills are appauling. Someone near me in the Town End said he shouldda played them the Tamworth game during the week to show what CAN and eventually did happen. A forward with pace yesterday would have got past their chunky centre half and scared the hell outta their defence. Instead we pumped it up front and that Exodus will have a sore head, Not from bumping into his own head, But the amount of times he headed that ball yesterday..

We came out in the second half and as the game got on we actually got worst instead of better. Woeful, Think most have said Larkin was good first half and faded away second... As did most of the players.

Its frustrating because we all know we can do so, so much better

You are flogging a dead horse.

To suggest Boydy is a better player than Joel Porter is ridiculous. Yes Behan was shocking but he wasn't even approaching as bad as Boyd was yesterday in the first half when NOTHING he did resulted in us retaining the ball. It was the worst I've ever seen him play.

To compare him with someone who is being touted to get back into his national team

Who's touting him? You?

Stick to what you know best - Cricket

Boyd should never of been taken off for BillyG that did nothing for the ressies in midweek and football is all about records and results.

Boyd shouldn't have been taken off no but that says more about the options available to us than his shocking performance.

So Porter never had a poor game? I've seen him have plenty.

Oh and Boyd has a better goals to games ratio than Porter which means he's a better striker.

End of story

Behan might have a better goal per game ratio this season than boyd 3quid.

Alright then going on that ridiclulous logic Andy Monkhouse is Pools joint best striker this season

Surely you mean joint second best?

PJ strikes again!

No, Boyd and Monkhouse both have five goals, our joint top scorer.

So 2 against Walsall, 1 against Swindon and 1 against Brighton makes 5 goals?

Ok PJ.

It says 5 in the programme, that's obviously wrong. But to be honest I don't even know what point you are trying to make, apart from trying defend someone who's performance yesterday was nothing short of a disgrace.

We are getting there eventually, you are such hard work PJ!

So far we have established that Boyd is obviously a better striker than Porter given the fact he scores goals more regularly and Andy Monkhouse is our joint second best goalscorer.

Stick with me mate, i'll keep you right