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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:25 am 
Sue Man Ure if they field a weakened team on sunday.

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Put yourself in their shoes mate. If you were a fan of those 3, you'd like to think your club would follow suit.

Warnock suffered the same when he was Sheff Utds manager.

Level playing field is all that can be asked for.

I'm not actually that arsed who goes down but it makes me despair to think that any team might get relegated as a result of Man Ure putting in their fourth choice keeper (as if the other 3 would all get injured against Hull). I proper despise that club. They are all that is wrong with football and their popularity baffles me.

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To be honest they wont have a leg to stand on as Man U have constantly rotated their team all season, there second team will be enought to beat Hull.

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God there like big babies.

It's funny you wouldnt hear a peep from them if they we're playing man u this sunday.

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To be honest they wont have a leg to stand on as Man U have constantly rotated their team all season, there second team will be enought to beat Hull.


Have a look at the team that they are wanting to put out. They're not dropping one or two players, it's the entire team and replacing them woth players who have no experience whatsoever. You'd be furious if it was Pools in this situation. I sincerely hope Barca dick them in the CL final.

I think it's refreshing to see teams finally stand up to Mr Ferguson. Long may it continue.

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I proper despise that club. They are all that is wrong with football and their popularity baffles me.

Their popularity is perfectly understandable. They appeal to weak people who want to be strong. People who love to have something with which to beat others, even those they would like to describe as friends. I've often been accused by 'yoo pubfans of being "jealous", as if they have achieved something personally. They don't seem to understand that I could choose to follow 'yoo tomorrow and share "their" success. Mind you, it is fun watching them splutter incoherently when I tell them that I don't think Fergie is anything special.


What gets me most about Fergie is the way he has portrayed himself as having socialist beliefs and is a man of the people and yet he has presided over a club who are the very embodiment of the greedy, capitalist way that football is run these days. You might as well just rank the league tables based on how much money the club is worth and not play football at all - the richest are at the top and the poorest are at the bottom.

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Whats the team they are suggesting to play?

Even players like Eckersley, Macheda, Wellbeck etc are better than hull players.

This Sheff United situation has just set teams off now and instead of accepting relegation, that they deserve to go down over a 38 game season, they are clutching at straws and trying to cling on to there premier league lives.

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they have been shite for 37 games but if man ure field a under strength team they are responsible for them going down.
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any court in the world should laugh at them and find them guilty of contempt and fine the bastads millions banghead

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I proper despise that club. They are all that is wrong with football and their popularity baffles me.

Their popularity is perfectly understandable. They appeal to weak people who want to be strong. People who love to have something with which to beat others, even those they would like to describe as friends. I've often been accused by 'yoo pubfans of being "jealous", as if they have achieved something personally. They don't seem to understand that I could choose to follow 'yoo tomorrow and share "their" success. Mind you, it is fun watching them splutter incoherently when I tell them that I don't think Fergie is anything special.


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Whats the team they are suggesting to play?

Even players like Eckersley, Macheda, Wellbeck etc are better than hull players.

This Sheff United situation has just set teams off now and instead of accepting relegation, that they deserve to go down over a 38 game season, they are clutching at straws and trying to cling on to there premier league lives.


Is it a true reflection of 38 games though? I think they have every right to kick off about it. If this game was a fortnight ago, Man Ure would have a full strength team out and would more than likely wipe the floor with Hull. Where's the justice in that?

Incidentally, I hope Hull and their animal fans get relegated. They're far worse than any Mags, Smoggies or Make-Them fans.

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well look at it this way. If we made the playoffs and that last game of the season had nothing riding on it. Turner played a near full strength team and 3 of our top players got injured. You would be fuming with turner wouldnt you?

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of course it's a true relfection of 38 games, you don't get relegated off one game alone, you go down because OVER THE COURSE OF THE SEASON you have not been good enough to stay in that league.

If man u play a weakened team then fair play to them, they have earned that right by winning the league and getting in the champions league final.

It's pure sour grapes by so called big clubs like newcastle who can't accept the reason they are gash is there fault.

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of course it's a true relfection of 38 games, you don't get relegated off one game alone, you go down because OVER THE COURSE OF THE SEASON you have not been good enough to stay in that league.

If man u play a weakened team then fair play to them, they have earned that right by winning the league and getting in the champions league final.

It's pure sour grapes by so called big clubs like newcastle who can't accept the reason they are gash is there fault.



They've played 37 so far and have another game to go so what you are saying is nonsense my friend. If after 38 they haven't done enough, then they can't argue really

If they played a full strength team against Hull and the result was relegation for the north east teams, then fair enough. Is that going to happen? I'd hazard a guess at no.

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well look at it this way. If we made the playoffs and that last game of the season had nothing riding on it. Turner played a near full strength team and 3 of our top players got injured. You would be fuming with turner wouldnt you?


I know Turner is honest enough to stick to the rules which is the real issue here. He would probably rest a couple of players, which I think is acceptable. I dont expect Mr Ferguson to do that and I hope Barca teach them a footballing lesson against their full strength team.

misterb2001. I would like to hear the justification for playing a 4th choice, inexperienced keeper in such a game.

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Isnt that the point of having a squad you can rotate your player how you see fit if your in a lot of games at the end of the season

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If a player is registered in a squad then you can play him in the first game or the 38th game it's your choie!

Why give clubs the freedom to have squads and select the teams they like if when they do that they get hammered for it?

So let's just say from now on you have to play your best 11 every game no matter what!

It's all coming down to this one last game mate and i understand what your saying but if they'd done enough in the other 37 they wouldnt be in this position one bit.

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Warnock suffered the same when he was Sheff Utds manager.

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Also no he didnt the reason he suffered was carlos teves went on a mad goal scoring run clawing west ham out of the mire in the last three games of that season. The fact Warnock went to the fa etc was due to west ham not owning the player not the fact that man u fielded a weakened team, i dont recall man u getting a massive fine like west ham did.

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There are rules stating you must play what is deemed to be a competative 11. Check the rules. Level playing field and no-one can argue. No-one would be arsed if they even dropped 5 players but all 11??? Would you have been happy if Leeds had done that against Northampton and we'd gone down as a result of it? Do I even need to ask that question?

I understand what you are saying too but if any team has earned enough points over the course of the season to stay up and it's done with no advantage or disadvantage to any other team, then nobody could complain.

I've got revision to do so i'm bailing at this point.

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We'll have to agree to disagree, but i just think a club should be able to play whatever team they want, to be fair there 3rd string team could easily still beat hull.

The boro, mags and sunderland knew about a month ago the chances we're high that man u would be in champions league final and wouldnt play a full strength team in this game, so why not do summit about it back then instead of thinking oh we'll just kick off n blame man u.

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No matter what team Ferguson picks this Saturday or for the European Money Final, I think Barcelona are still going to embarrass them.

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No matter what team Ferguson picks this Saturday or for the European Money Final, I think Barcelona are still going to embarrass them.



oh i do hope so clappp

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boro have said they won't complain, and i expect newc and sunderland to do the same.

No one complained at the stadium of shite when man u dropped ronaldo for that game, no one at boro complained when man u made 8 changes for the game there.

And alternativly there was no attention turned to fratton park last season when portsmouth played a weakend team as they had a cup final to play in a few days, giving fulham an advantage, winning and then staying up, not one word muttered!

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The Premiershit is not an important league otherwise they would have rules like we have for the paintpot trophy. Manure will field a team of international players from their squad so who can argue.

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there was no attention turned to fratton park last season when portsmouth played a weakend team as they had a cup final to play in a few days, giving fulham an advantage, winning and then staying up, not one word muttered!

Chelsea might well do the same to Sunderland.
It's irrelevant anyway: it's not as though the barcodes or borer are going to get owt this weekend.

The premiership is going to be even duller next season without three relegation candidates to take an interest in. confised

The Championship might be interesting though *cough* Leeds *cough* Leicester :grin:

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Jish your talking utter rubbish pal.

Where Boro moaning when Arsenal, Chelsea & Man Utd put out reserve teams for the Carling Cup when they wont it????? Where they fook! So they cant talk. Newcastle are done for in my opinion, Villa have something to prove.
Boro can go fook themselves!!!!!
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Jish your talking utter rubbish pal.

Where Boro moaning when Arsenal, Chelsea & Man Utd put out reserve teams for the Carling Cup when they wont it????? Where they fook! So they cant talk. Newcastle are done for in my opinion, Villa have something to prove.
Boro can go fook themselves!!!!!
So can Newcastle for that matter.
Oh and Sunderland to :grin:



How am I talking rubbish? I'm stating facts. The fact is, there is a rule stating that you must put out your strongest team. What's rubbish about that? Teams might not adhere to it but it's there in black and white.

Just because you clearly hate these teams doesn't make you right.

Not one person on this or any other board could claim to be happy if this situation applied to their team.

oh, and just because it's happened in the past doesn't make it right either.

I'm not posting anything else on this as I feel that some people have completely missed the point.

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Who decides what is there strongest team then?

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Jish your talking utter rubbish pal.

Where Boro moaning when Arsenal, Chelsea & Man Utd put out reserve teams for the Carling Cup when they wont it????? Where they fook! So they cant talk. Newcastle are done for in my opinion, Villa have something to prove.
Boro can go fook themselves!!!!!
So can Newcastle for that matter.
Oh and Sunderland to :grin:



How am I talking rubbish? I'm stating facts. The fact is, there is a rule stating that you must put out your strongest team. What's rubbish about that? Teams might not adhere to it but it's there in black and white.

Just because you clearly hate these teams doesn't make you right.

Not one person on this or any other board could claim to be happy if this situation applied to their team.

oh, and just because it's happened in the past doesn't make it right either.

I'm not posting anything else on this as I feel that some people have completely missed the point.


If i was a Hull fan i'd be happy with Man Utd playing their strongest team.

Do you think that Ronaldo, Rooney, Ferdinand, Tevez etc are going to bust a gut in a meaningless game (for them) when they've got a Champions league final in the next few days?

I'd be more worried if they were putting out a team of fringe players and bench-warmers who will be itching to impress and even possibly get a place in the squad for Rome.

Think about it.

Anyway, Boro couldn't even be bothered to turn up for a league game against Blackburn in 1997 which led to them being relegated, so why would they be bothered?


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I would actually like to see Newcastle win and still go down - I know that doesn't have a lot to do with this thread but I just felt like sharing my thoughts. i also think MadJohns comments were excellent.....


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Jish I fully see your point but there are valid arguments from both sides.
On one side, if Manyoo make wholesale changes from the side that clinched the title scarcely a week before, I don't see how anyone with any commonsense at all could argue they are playing their best team.
But on the other side, what if, for example, they were playing Wigan rather than Hull and made the same changes? I'm sure no one would bat an eyelid. So what we're also saying, in a roundabout way, is that Manyoo are allowed to pick who they want only when they are playing certain teams.

To keep everybody happy, they should pick a weakened team and draw with Hull, while Aston Villa score an equaliser against Newcastle in injury time. The barcodes then successfully sue Manyoo for £££ squillion, while the FA let the Hull result stand based on the (admittedly tenuous) West Ham v Manyoo precedent. That should do the trick in annoying everyone we want to see annoyed. :wink:

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Can I just say...........as long as the foookin thick twatting skunks go down, I couldnt give a toss. :laugh:

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Can I just say...........as long as the foookin thick twatting skunks go down, I couldnt give a toss. :laugh:


I was going to post something similar. But with more naughty words.

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