When CT was Director of Sport his brief was to oversee everything to do with the football side of things including recommending and recruiting the coaching staff (this was due to the Board of Directors being out of touch during the Scott regime).

Now that CT is part of the coaching staff and seems to be failing how then can he either continue in the current role or recruit and oversee someone else as first team coach.
His stock as a Manager is not particuarly high and is heading downwards with each game.

Mr Hodcroft may have a big decision to make soon.

he must fall on his sword and walk away from Pools altogether if we drop down. There is absolutely no way a new manager would have Turner in the background, like he was while Wilson was here. Unless of course the new manager is West - in which case someone please pass me the rope while I hang myself
Apart from which, the point you made is the reason he couldn't possibly stay anyway - if we go down how can he have the brass neck to just go back to his old role in any case?

Probably because he would have no option, who else would employ someone with such a poor record?!

Who knows, we may see him serving up big macs in macdonalds in the near future!

It will be nice for you to have someone else other then TWH to work with though

'Get back to the Fry-O-Laytor, Tubby and I never called you a c.u.n.t or nothin'

i think its a bit harsh to completely blame turner for the mess we are in. True we havent won many games and thats what he is ultimately judged on but he has had to content with a massively unbalanced squad plus lots of injuries to key players at key times. His one downfall has been not sorting out the defense/keeper. And as for going back upstairs, why couldnt he? His job is to do all the paperwork for ior and to be a link between manager and hodcroft. He is also in charge of negotiating contracts with new players. I think a lot of people are pushing all of the blame onto him, some of which is unnecessary.

I think its extremely harsh putting all the blame onto Turner for our recent results. If we look at our last 2 performances, they have been very good against 3rd in the league and a team chasing play offs. I mean friday night we got killed by the sending off in first 10 minutes, but i think we outplayed Southend for majority of the game and deserved to come away with at least a point. How can we blame all this on Turner who has inherited a bunch of players which i dont think many managers would be happy with (well i certainly wouldnt if i was a manager anyways). I think the players are more to blame than Turner as they are not preforming at all (taking away last 2 games) where they have battled hard and looked a lot more interested.
I think we need to get to the end of the season, get rid of about 8 - 10 current players and start fresh for next season with a new squad that Turner has picked himself then judge the man after that. If it doesnt work after he has had time with his own players then fair enough, point the finger at him. But until then, leave the man alone and let him try and get the average players we have currently keep this club in league 1!

3 points this saturday is A MUST!!

i dont think turner will be manager next season. As has been said before we need fresh ideas. Also to the conspiracy theorists who think west will get the job.... We tend to employ assistant managers seperately to the manager himself. So we could easily have employed west as the assistant manager. Nothing more, nothing less

I really really hope you are right. If Turner is manager next season then it shows the club have no ambition whatsoever. We need fresh ideas and a huge shakeup.

Cant see how Turner can stay on at the club in any role after this.

And his loan signings have hardly been inspiring!!

Why would West to leave a job at Southend to be only employed here for a few months?

who said he is only here for a few month? Martin scott and ian butterworth were both appointed by pools themselves and not the managers, so why not the same with west?

I'm fairly sure the managers on both occasions had plenty of say in who got the job, Scott was appointed on the same day as Cooper and I'm sure Danny Wilson had input in who would be his assistant. I slightly misunderstood what you said but I don't think any manager worth his salt wouldn't just be told "this is who you will be working alongside".

I just have a niggling doubt that West would have left Southend in their wasn't a pretty good incentive, ie. the carrot of the managers job.

well according to the interviews at the time, west was the one phoning turner begging him to give him the job. So i doubt that would be any way to conduct yourself if you wanted the managers job. The truth is this is yet another 'non-story' by the conspiracy theorists who seem intent on constantly finding 'problems' when there arent any

West already had a job I'd be amazed if that was the case.

I'm baffled by your last statement, where is the conspiracy? It's a theory yes, but I fail to see any conspiracy or 'problems'. How do you know that it isn't the truth?? How can you be so confident that it isn't?

It's just a rumour, it might be true, you don't know.

well unless west lied in his video interview then he clearly stated that as soon as he heard butterworth was going he phoned turner straight away. Was on the official site if im not mistaken. The conspiracy thing is more about comments on one of the other boards but is starting to creep in on here. And it could very well be true that he could be the next manager, however, i believe there is more evidence to suggest that he is simply here as a number 2. Hope that clears it up!