....made a visit to the camp of protestors against climate change on the Isle of Grain today.

Would you believe it ?

Top man! Good old King Arthur.

has he still got that shredded wheat on his head ?

top man of the people, living in a million pound house

No ... just a few strands of Spaghetti nowadays....

I always got the impression he was the type who'd send the boys round if you crossed his path

He might have....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgDKtLPp46s

... he did didn't he but he was there to PUT THE CASE FOR THE BUILDING OF THE NEW POWER PLANT NOT AGAINST IT.

What ever your politics he was proved right about the closing ofthe mines in '84 and having to import coal......

Would of made great MP for Hartlepool , wouldnt be in the state it is now.

Oh do give over. We've had this discussion a hundred times. Yes he was right but there was a bit more to it than that simple statement.

There was a lot more to it & the end result is that the British public no longer have any rights or a voice.

if scargill was going to be my voice, i'd chop my own head off

Ohhh do giver over.....

Apart from the right to vote in by-elections and general elections, the freedom of speech, the freedom to travel wherever you wish, the freedom to post your views on here etc etc etc

I once saw him speak in Church Square - I think it must have been for the Socialist Workers Party or some such thing. Although I do broadly agree with his principles he had some slightly far fetched ideas...

We may be allowed to complain & express our views,but we will be ignored.Employers do what the hell they like as they know there is nothing we can do about it.
The government used the armed forces and violence against its own citizens to put us in our place.The miners may have thought that strike was about coal but the government only ever cared about showing the British public that they will do what they want & we cannot stop them.

Great compassionate man, utter public nuisance.

stunted, cuban-heeled, emotionally repressed, socially challenged, cod-marxist megalomaniac

Scargill wanted one thing only, to bring down the government. Trouble was that he reckoned without St Margaret.

OK so I'm new to the board, forgive me for breathing

Mr Choker, I think what Mr I was trying to avoid was the long drawn out "discussions" that have ensued over this topic in the past.

Some people get very upset and agitated about it.

It would be much easier if they could just admit that the miners were in the wrong and that Mrs T did what she did for the good of the country as a whole as opposed to the self interest of a militant few.

When did the government last used the 'armed forces' against its own people.... I can't in my lifetime ever remember the army weighing in against anyone

You'll have to go back to the Civil War unless you're including the shameful use of the black and tans in Ireland.

1984.

Theres no way in the world that the Police force are disciplined enough to attack in numbers like that.

So the Army dressed up in coppers uniforms.....?

Judging by what went on, the old bill showed no discipline whatsoever!

Absolutely untrue. I do know that there were some soldiers involved in the flying pickets. (not the doo wop bunch)

Scargill v Ted heath : them wretched powercuts of the seventies lights out no tea no tv candles torches...

Bloody Sunday I'll give you. Forgot about that one. Gibraltar never. The IRA unit had a car full of explosives rigged with a remote control device. Yes they were taken down in the street, and very well done it was too.

They had been under surveillance by a team from 14 Int for days and evidence was shown in court that they had reserved a parking space on the road where British Army bands were due to parade. They had put an innocent car there to keep the space and planned to swap it with the one rigged with shit loads of semtex was parked in La Linea just over the border with Spain.

The three IRA members were taken down by a combined 14 Int/SAS team when they went to draw guns after sussing out they were being followed. Bear in mind that the 14/SAS team thought at this stage that the clean car was the live bomb and that it could be detonated by remote control.

It was a well worked operation against very professional IRA players. If they had succeeded hundreds would have been killed and maimed.

AIDO - If Scargill was your voice , I would save him the trouble and chop your head off myself.

I think it was more like Joe Gormley against Ted Eef in 1974.
Both sides stepped up their firepower for the next war.

It was seeing what Gormless did to Heath that made Maggie so determined. One of the first things she did after becoming PM was to make sure the power stations had a years coal stocks.

just for a change for you, that's a fookin stupid thing to say with no basis in logic