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 Post subject: Apprenticeships...
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:37 am 
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why oh why is it, that every time some chav with a talent for thieving and hot wiring cars gets sentenced, does some half baked academic suggest they have a mechanical talent and would be better served by being given an 'apprenticeship' in the patronising way people like this think any rarf with a talent for pinching a car is a latent mechanical prodigy.
Unlike other countries, we have a social system that looks down on any job that is not academic in the sense that an engineer is always considered a less desirable job than say a solicitor.... funny old country, even if we got rid of the royal family, there'd still be a class system.

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 Post subject: Re: Apprenticeships...
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:26 am 
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especially after the goverment scuppered the apprenticeships by introducing the YTS most firms stopped taking on people to fully train up which is why we are now relying on migrant workers to help fill the void.
but even within the apprentice ranks there are jobs which are viewed as better than others
engineers top joiners who top painters

i know when i was leaving school i had the choice of three apprenticeships
a shipwright at haverton hill
a joiner at yuills
a fitter at the port authority

dont think there are that many apprenticeships in total each september :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Apprenticeships...
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:17 am 
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Snowy is right, trades were and are undervalued.

I work mostly from a office, I earn a good salary with a good bonus scheme, have a good company car, and I answer to pretty much nobody except once a month when the p/l is produced.

But...... I'd take a 20k drop in wages to be a electrician which is what I wanted to do when I left school.


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 Post subject: Re: Apprenticeships...
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:10 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Apprenticeships...
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:51 pm 
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although I'm used to coordinating new projects on site, writing and rewriting plant instructions etc, operating plant and doing on-line analysis etc, I really wished I'd served my apprenticeship as a tiffy. Now that's a passport to work anywhere.

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:22 pm 
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Mr I wrote:
Snowy is right, trades were and are undervalued.

I work mostly from a office, I earn a good salary with a good bonus scheme, have a good company car, and I answer to pretty much nobody except once a month when the p/l is produced.

But...... I'd take a 20k drop in wages to be a electrician which is what I wanted to do when I left school.


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 Post subject: Re: Apprenticeships...
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:27 pm 
Mr I wrote:
Snowy is right, trades were and are undervalued.

I work mostly from a office, I earn a good salary with a good bonus scheme, have a good company car, and I answer to pretty much nobody except once a month when the p/l is produced.

But...... I'd take a 20k drop in wages to be a electrician which is what I wanted to do when I left school.


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 Post subject: Re: Apprenticeships...
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:54 pm 
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tigro wrote:
Mr I wrote:
Snowy is right, trades were and are undervalued.

I work mostly from a office, I earn a good salary with a good bonus scheme, have a good company car, and I answer to pretty much nobody except once a month when the p/l is produced.

But...... I'd take a 20k drop in wages to be a electrician which is what I wanted to do when I left school.


MR I - who do you work for?

He's a Colonel in the KGB. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Apprenticeships...
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Snowy wrote:
tigro wrote:
Mr I wrote:
Snowy is right, trades were and are undervalued.

I work mostly from a office, I earn a good salary with a good bonus scheme, have a good company car, and I answer to pretty much nobody except once a month when the p/l is produced.

But...... I'd take a 20k drop in wages to be a electrician which is what I wanted to do when I left school.


MR I - who do you work for?

He's the Colonel in KFC. :wink:


Is he a breast or thigh man? :laugh: :laugh:

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