Goalkeeper.

Over the course of the season neither goalkeepers have been good enough. Budtz is a disaster waiting to happen when you least expect it and ALB is simply inconsistant. Wonder if Dimi wants to come back...... either way, we need a new number one keeper.

Defence

Simply not good enough. Mostly this is down to DW's insistance on breaking up the Clark/Nelson partnership but additionally both full back positions have been liabilities all season except when we've played poor teams. We need two full backs signed. Humphreys does a job and I suppose is ok as a squad player, but a permanent left back..... nah. Centre backs; I'd stick with two from Clark/Nelson/Collins.

Midfield
Boland's one good game in three is not good enough and is the reason that Liddle has not shown what he can do this season. To be honest other than that we've got enough players in this are to put out a decent line.

Forwards:
We've got enough up front unless Porter does walk. Barker I suppose is good enough in certain formations but really we need movement up front. two from Porter/Brown/MacKay gives us that.

URGENT
We need a Roy Keane [spits] esque captain. Someone who can sort out this gutless streak and get this team to grow some cajones.

manager.

Shite.......

Maybe and I'm not against it, I just don't think it will happen. As I said earlier; To date Wilson's Hartlepool CV reads 1) promotion 2) consolidation in higher league. Being pragmatic, thats not bad and I don't believe its enough to get him sacked.

I don`t think they will get rid of him either, but it dosen`t stop me hoping they do, I am certainly not looking forward to the rest of this season and definatlly not next season with him in charge, and I would guess the majority of fans feel the same way!!!

But being typically shallow football fans, should we have a good season next time, Danny Wilson would be top of our popularity charts.

Exactly, he doesn't really have any grounds to be sacked. It just doesn't happen just because a few people on here don't like him

IOR have surprised us before in the summer though, his rolling contract is up for renewal and I think the remaining games could have a baring on his future.

Yeah. Because Porter and Barker didn't and did get games respectively, amongst other things, people want his bollocks on their plate. They even make him out to be a nasty, nasty man

Regardless of the could-have-beens, he's still pretty much done what most Pools fans asked for at the beginning of the season. So I'm fine with it.

I don't get why hardly anyone feels able to lay blame at the feet of the players. X has a bad game - its Wilson's fault. Y had a bad game, ditto. The defence goes to sleep - blame the manager.

As I keep saying; the majority of the blame for this season lies with these so called professionals. They are either simply not good enough or they don't have the guts for the fight.

But what's puzzling is that they played so well at Tranmere, and with ten men, so it's not that they're not good enough or that they don't have guts.
What happened to that sports psychologist we had?

I'm glad someone else feels able to say these things. I completely agree - the amount of times I've seen players passed over for blame is phenomenal.

The only reason most people on here seem to want him out is that they don't think he's a nice enough man to have a pint with. They draw amazing conclusions into his day-to-day existence through his choices. We could do one hell of a lot worse, and I'm sick of getting a new manager all the time.

New manager = new squad = getting rid of players for random reasons = building new team = may not be better than the one we have already.

I'm happy for Pools to be in League One for the next ten years as long as we can build slowly. Look at Bristol City - we need relative success first before challenging higher.

I mean ffs, we're Hartlepool, not Liverpool. We'd get shot down in flames if we went up to the Championship, and even then we may not recover fully to try again.

We need stability. Until Wilson really fucks it up, keep him in.

agree with most of that, but feel we will desperately need another striker, would be delighted if we keep hold of either Brown or Liddle, but i doubt it.

every team in this division has a natural goalscorer eg Luke Beckett, Scotland etc and although we have 2 good strikers i think we really need another.

im very happy with the defenders we have at centre back, our full backs (Humphs & McCunnie) are half decent but feel we need a 'specialist' left back.

Centre Mid is the key though. If we can keep Liddle, then we need a bruiser next to him who can take the game by the scruff of the neck (keane was a great example)

When we have played near our best it is because the midfield have been in control.

Oh and we desperately, desperately, desperately need a goal keeper. i wonder if Mr Harper from up the road fancies actually playing a few games regularly for a change?

i actually think DW (if he still has his job) has the ability to bring some quality players in, and I for one, will look forward to next season with renewed excitement.

Oh and re-reading what i just wrote, i have realised i have just said the same as you

It is Wilsons job to motivate these players........ Simple as.......

We have some really good players in the squad, it is the managers job to get the best out of these players, he is not doing it, (in my opinion), do you think someone like Neale Cooper would be able to motivate these players??.I think yes, so if he could why can`t DW???

Also, fans want to be entertained, I am not being entertained.........

Going back to some of his decisions this season Mind boggling......

what has gone before will be the un doing of DW not what we have left
avoiding relegation is just not enough to justify a good season and remember the teams deducted points have saved his bacon

I understand what you're saying but Hodcroft is a pragmatic sort of guy. If you remember he has two rules: don't embarrass us and don't get relegated. Wilson has done neither, he got us promoted last season and will finish in a reasonable mid table position this one. He won't be sacked.

Unfortunatly your correct

Care to elaborate or are you hiding behind youe smilies???

if you let a monkey drive a car, the car will appear to do silly things and be unpredictable.

Like I said on another post, why have ALL the players apparently suffered from some form of communal madness, laziness, general can't be arsedness..... Hmmm, so all the players are out of order and the managers right, that's where the 'Danny Boy is a victim' theory falls down flat on it's tits.

Blame lies at a combination of the two parts, the manager and the players.

Lots of people just want to blame Wilson for everything and give the players no responsibility at all. Like at Tranmere last week did Wilson fall to deal with a long ball then bring down a forward resulting in a red card and penalty? Did he chop a cross into his own net? Did he miss a penalty? We'd won three in a row and not one of us would have disagreed with the team he sent out, but individuals in that team made errors.

The players are far from blameless for an average season, neither is Wilson though, far from it.

Did Wilson not pick the team

Did you disagree with it?

We'd won the three previous games. Yet again though you fail to grasp what I am saying, the players must take some responsibility. They are getting an easy ride if they as well go down the "everything is Wilsons fault" route. Of course he's made mistake but so have the players.

People also forget they also are saying that case it was solely down to Wilson that we got promoted and are playing this level in the first place. Or was that just down to the players

It's cheaper and easier to replace a manager than a team. If the team aint doing the business, why's that?............ I don't feel he's in control and no matter how knowledgable you are about the game, if you can't inspire your players, your team and stamp your authority on it, you're wasting your time..

But the new manager would then start replacing the team himself whether it's the right or wrong decision (usually a wobbly mixture of both), so it's not as cheap in the long run.

We need stability. Let the guy finish the season and go from there - I don't think he's too inept to know where he's going wrong.

The players never get criticised. I'm sick of reading Wilson Out posts, particularly those who don't know what they're talking about or are following trends (although Snowy, I like your posts and that isn't aimed at you)

I supported the bloke last season and took some real stick for it, before they finally came to life. This season however seems to have been a season of stagnation and drifting, as though getting promoted came as a bit of a surprise to the manager, a manager who seems somehow detatched from the fans. Someone once described a particular aircraft as 40,000 rivets flying in loose formation.... that's how I feel we are as a club, apparently all going in the same direction, but the situations fragile and it doesn't take much for it to go to pieces fanwise... if you follow my drift.

Theres no such word Chip

Wilson finally picked the team that won three games on the trot because he had nowhere else to go. Then when McCunnie got sent off at Tranmere he started to mess with the team( bringing on Foley and Craddock and taking Porter and Mackay off). He has also being saying all last week that he can't wait to get Barker back into the team, don't you think that is a bit demoralising for the strikers who are playing.
Then he plays Antwi before Clark this time and plays Collins who wasn't fit enough.

The man is still a tosser

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That statement that points deducted has saved Wilson's bacon is incorrect. Give Luton and Bournemouth their 10 pts back and we still 10 pts clear of them both with goal difference of 14 and 18 goals on them.

I'm still trying to find out where Porter and Monkhouse say they are leaving. Except on here by proxy.

I know Sweeney hasn't signed his contract, he's been at the club since he was a kid, maybe he just wants to try and move on a bit, broaden his experience. That wouldn't be unreasonable, and if his agent is acting the arse we all know what reaction he'll get from Mr Hodcroft.

here, here.
Plus, who are the clueless ones of which Mr Ginger Poolie speaks?

Oi, You! Chip Fireball you wrote and I quote

nobody said it saved wilsons bacon. nobody said it saved us from relegation, at least not anywhere on this thread.

can I point out.......Gremmlin wrote

what has gone before will be the un doing of DW not what we have left avoiding relegation is just not enough to justify a good season and remember the teams deducted points have saved his bacon.

so someone has said the points DEDUCTED HAVE SAVED HIS BACON. AND ON THIS THREAD.

So as you miss things on here while responding, just perhaps Wilson sees more on the pitch than you do.

How many league games has ALB played now?
How many games did Dimi play before he wrested the goalkeeping jersey from Prov?
Doesn't anyone remember how unconvicing Dimi was at the start? We didn't sign a finished product in Dimi: he became good at Pools. Which is why it's a shame we got nowt for him.

Yes I know there's no guarantee ALB will become another Dimi but I reckon it's still far too early to write him off. He has shown he can be good; he just needs that ability to become reproducible.

Budtz on the other hand has had more than enough opportunities in his career to prove himself.

dont bank on it