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 Post subject: An English England Manager
PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:50 pm 
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Who would you pick?

Tony Mowbray/Bryan Robson dual role.... :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: An English England Manager
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 Post subject: Re: An English England Manager
PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:57 pm 
Tony Mowbray is far more successful then Captain Charisma

There isn't a SINGLE English manager I would pick to do the job, they are all inept or on the take

Stuart Pearce =Shouts a lot, has a tattoo, but is rubbish
Redknapp = :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Curbishley = pish
Coppell = oooh me ribs

The simple fact is they arent good enough and no amount of money to spend is going to make them world class coaches


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 Post subject: Re: An English England Manager
PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:11 pm 
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Once everyone stops imagining managing a national team is like managing a league side we might get somewhere.
You need someone who is able to instil some sort of coherence into and get the best out of an ad hoc group of players. Once they go back to their clubs you have no say whatsoever on how they prepare for the next time they play with the "other" set of players they are called on to play with.
The greatest managers in British club football - Busby, Shankly, Paisley, Revie, Clough, Stein, Ferguson, Wenger - have had things on their side that the national team manager never has: time, stability, unlimited availability of their playing staff...

What makes you think Mourinho or any other manager for that matter would do well without those advantages?
Maybe a journeyman manager like Steve Cotterill or Paul Sturrock (yeah I know he's a sweaty) would be far better at the job than the so called big names.

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 Post subject: Re: An English England Manager
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:48 am 
Mourinho will be a step backwards!!!! :evil: :evil:


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 Post subject: Re: An English England Manager
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:11 am 
chip fireball wrote:
whats wrong with harry redknapp then talbot ? his record is excellent and he is a bit dodgy, which i always consider to be a good thing.



His record is average, he is bent and he is English

The last English manager to have any really success?

Bob Paisley or Joe Fagin, over 20 years ago


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 Post subject: Re: An English England Manager
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ElvisCsGlasses(TM) wrote:
TalbotAvenger wrote:
chip fireball wrote:
whats wrong with harry redknapp then talbot ? his record is excellent and he is a bit dodgy, which i always consider to be a good thing.



His record is average, he is bent and he is English

The last English manager to have any really success?

Bob Paisley or Joe Fagin, over 20 years ago


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 Post subject: Re: An English England Manager
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:59 am 
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MutleyRules wrote:
Mourinho will be a step backwards!!!! :evil: :evil:


i dont understand....why do you think he'd be a step backwards? he's one of, if not the most succesful managers in world football.
mind you i've decided i'm sick of england anyway and using capital letters.

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 Post subject: Re: An English England Manager
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:06 pm 
ElvisCsGlasses(TM) wrote:
TalbotAvenger wrote:
chip fireball wrote:
whats wrong with harry redknapp then talbot ? his record is excellent and he is a bit dodgy, which i always consider to be a good thing.



His record is average, he is bent and he is English

The last English manager to have any really success?

Bob Paisley or Joe Fagin, over 20 years ago


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Alright!!, Joe Fagan then, but you get the idea...

Hairy Redknapp, Curbs, Keegan, etc etc , all crap


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 Post subject: Re: An English England Manager
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In the scheme of things Harry Rednap, Brian Robson, Stewrat(I'll leave that in it's a good 'un) Pierce etc, as managers they're all second string none achievers. Maybe Steve Coppell deserves a bit more consideration cos he's still got potential but has he got the bottle.

And it's died down now but how anyone could suggest Alan Shearer, who's never managed anything and is still doing day release for coaching badges, could be put in the frame god only knows.

Maybe there should be a revolution and England could achieve a world first by appointing a Manager who is woman. Any suggestions?

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 Post subject: Re: An English England Manager
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Frodraff wrote:
Maybe there should be a revolution and England could achieve a world first by appointing a Manager who is woman. Any suggestions?



I can think of one................................


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 Post subject: Re: An English England Manager
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Mr I wrote:
Frodraff wrote:
Maybe there should be a revolution and England could achieve a world first by appointing a Manager who is woman. Any suggestions?



I can think of one................................


Martine Scott?

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 Post subject: Re: An English England Manager
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According to Graham Taylor on Radio Five a few days ago there is no chance in the world Steve Coppell would take the job if asked. His suggestion was that Steve suffers from depression and couldnt handle the idea of our idiotic intrusive and generally quite nasty tabloid press. (the comments about the press were mine, not Grahams)
As for Mourinho being a backward step, I dont understand that at all.
My preferred appointment would be the same as it was last time - O Neill

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 Post subject: Re: An English England Manager
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:18 pm 
BritishWestHpool wrote:
According to Graham Taylor on Radio Five a few days ago there is no chance in the world Steve Coppell would take the job if asked. His suggestion was that Steve suffers from depression and couldnt handle the idea of our idiotic intrusive and generally quite nasty tabloid press. (the comments about the press were mine, not Grahams)
As for Mourinho being a backward step, I dont understand that at all.
My preferred appointment would be the same as it was last time - O Neill



I read an article which said one of the reasons O'Neill never got the job was because he didn't do a powerpoint presentation during the interview

If that is true, and I can well believe it of the FA, he wouldn't touch the job with a bargepole if offered again

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 Post subject: Re: An English England Manager
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exactly Mr Avenger. I would never blame McLaren for the dour state of English national football simply because he should never have been given the job in the first place.
And as for interviews. Why do you need to fucking interview a host of people anyway?
What was O'Neill going to say?
"Well I did okay at Wycombe, Leicester, Celtic"
Surely they can see what he has done? And he is obviously very passionate and intelligent. The idiots should have just given him the job. Right now, I wouldnt blame him for telling them to go and fuck themselves.
There was an articles in the Times or summat that wondered if he was now going to follow his esteemed Mr Clough in becoming the best manager England never had, the one who would have won the world cup or european thingybob, but who never made it. They suggested he might find that easier than actually putting his reputation on the line, and perhaps dashing it.
Personally I hope he lets bygones be bygones and goes for it - though I cant say I'm excited about the national team anymore.
As for prize pluym Barwick, the same paper suggested that O'Neill was always his choice but he couldnt persuade others to go along with him; and that this time he would just approach O'Neill and give him the job straight if O'Neill himself gave the go ahead.

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 Post subject: Re: An English England Manager
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:30 am 
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This CV and interview thing...

IOR did CVs and interviews when Cooper was appointed.
They didn't do interviews when Scott and Wislon were appointed.
So maybe there is something to the method.

Of course it helps if those doing the interviews have a bit of nous.

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