Early days, but…,

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Re: Early days, but…,

Postby Snowy » Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:35 pm

You don’t because you can’t.
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Re: Early days, but…,

Postby MutleyRules » Wed Sep 03, 2025 5:40 am

By offering him a decent or even half decent contract.
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Re: Early days, but…,

Postby Snowy » Wed Sep 03, 2025 6:22 am

Anything is possible and of course money is the obvious draw, but there could be a number of factors beside money…..maybe it could be to cut hi# travelling time if closer to home and even the general atmosphere at the club.
Ambitious clubs attract ambitious players and from a fans viewpoint a cloud has hung over us, so how did it affect the players with such a total clear out in the summer.
Maybe the ‘ mood music’ At the club was out of tune…?
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Re: Early days, but…,

Postby billinghampoolie1908 » Wed Sep 03, 2025 6:26 am

PTID wrote:How do you stop a player who's out of contract from leaving?


You keep him happy you pay more than rochdale, something is seriously amiss when rochdale can take your top player. Doesn't look good
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Re: Early days, but…,

Postby Snowy » Wed Sep 03, 2025 8:34 am

Trouble is, we never see the full picture behind the scenes.
In theory it’s straight forward keeping a player..in theory…but ….there are a number of factors that can affect things and not necessarily football related…like any job.
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Re: Early days, but…,

Postby PTID » Wed Sep 03, 2025 8:45 am

Exactly, nobody knows the full details about why Mani turned down a new contract with us, maybe more money, closer to where he wants to live, perceived better chance of promotion, how the team is going to play and expectations of himself, is he happy with his personal and social life, etc etc
There's better players at all levels who'll leave clubs and disappoint fans when their contracts expire, and sometimes when they're still under contract, so a player leaving a club is hardly a disgrace.
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Re: Early days, but…,

Postby Snowy » Wed Sep 03, 2025 9:35 am

Why do we always assume a club is at fault when a player leaves.
Some problems can’t be solved just by throwing money at them…..but it always helps….that said, the vacuum the fans were all operating under didn’t exactly help either.
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Re: Early days, but…,

Postby Flying Hogans » Wed Sep 03, 2025 9:43 am

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:You keep him happy you pay more than rochdale, something is seriously amiss when rochdale can take your top player.


It's all about money. Every dog has its day sooner or later in the lower leagues and this is Rochdale's. We might think they're little old hopeless Rochdale but they're not.

The Ogden family, who own Rochdale now, are loaded. Sir Peter Ogden was an investment banker and co-founder of Computacenter, a massive multinational company. Since he sold his stake in that company he has given millions away to charity and set up a business that owns motor sport tracks all over the UK and Europe. Luckily for Rochdale AFC, he was born there!

You strike me as someone who has never got over the Norwegian money tree being taken away from Pools as abruptly as it arrived.
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Re: Early days, but…,

Postby dstanley5 » Wed Sep 03, 2025 10:03 am

We do not have a sugar daddy but fortunately football is a team game and the strength of the team can be greater than the sum of the parts. Of course the reverse is also true as ManU consistently proove!
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Re: Early days, but…,

Postby accrington fan » Wed Sep 03, 2025 10:09 am

Snowy wrote:Why do we always assume a club is at fault when a player leaves.
Some problems can’t be solved just by throwing money at them…..but it always helps….that said, the vacuum the fans were all operating under didn’t exactly help either.

if you look at his history it shows he does not hang around at one club for long. has he ever signed a new contract with a club and stayed there seeing a new one out. just another way used by many to knock an unpopular owner.
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Re: Early days, but…,

Postby accrington fan » Wed Sep 03, 2025 10:15 am

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:Let's be honest johnson has been garbage so far, whether its down to lack of chances or just not up to it, he isn't a patch on mani d. We will regret letting a 15 to 20 goal player go especially to a rival. Hopefully johnson will come good but at the minute its not looking likely.

as far as johnson is concerned he is no better watching him live than on DAZN and looks a weakness in the team but grayson keeps on picking him and he hasn,t done a bad job has he.
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Re: Early days, but…,

Postby Snowy » Wed Sep 03, 2025 11:01 am

accrington fan wrote:
Snowy wrote:Why do we always assume a club is at fault when a player leaves.
Some problems can’t be solved just by throwing money at them…..but it always helps….that said, the vacuum the fans were all operating under didn’t exactly help either.

if you look at his history it shows he does not hang around at one club for long. has he ever signed a new contract with a club and stayed there seeing a new one out. just another way used by many to knock an unpopular owner.

His record before arriving here was nothing to write home about, but those around him never racked up a reasonable amount of goals to complement his efforts.
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