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 Post subject: Local government reorganisation
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 7:49 am 
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Its back on the agenda again.
It will mean that unitary authorities like Hartlepool will disappear and they will be merged into Teesside wide authorities like what we had years ago with Cleveland council. It was a disaster for towns like Hartlepool where money and power was sucked into the hungry rat that Middlesbrough is.
Its happen recently with other towns whereby numerous financial penalties and "incentives" are deployed by the government to make it happen.
Make it clear to all counsellors, MPs friends and family that this cannot be allowed to happen or we will be shafted.
This is not a party political issue as parties of all shades have been working on this. The London centric controllers just see Teesside as a lump with no understanding of the differences that exist.

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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 8:01 am 
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It's not good for local democracy


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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 8:50 am 
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Bluestreak wrote:
Its back on the agenda again.
It will mean that unitary authorities like Hartlepool will disappear and they will be merged into Teesside wide authorities like what we had years ago with Cleveland council. It was a disaster for towns like Hartlepool where money and power was sucked into the hungry rat that Middlesbrough is.
Its happen recently with other towns whereby numerous financial penalties and "incentives" are deployed by the government to make it happen.
Make it clear to all counsellors, MPs friends and family that this cannot be allowed to happen or we will be shafted.
This is not a party political issue as parties of all shades have been working on this. The London centric controllers just see Teesside as a lump with no understanding of the differences that exist.

We’re fucked then….Cleveland ruined this town, are they about to finish the job and turn us into a dormitory town on the outskirts. :angry-tappingfoot:

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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:39 am 
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Same as Durham have ruined all the surrounding towns and villages. Higher Council Tax for a c£150k house in a former mining village than in a c£500k riverside property in Durham city. And virtually no local amenities as the villages and towns grow disproportionally as the new houses (and increased CT take for Durham) are thrown up at alarming rates.
The country is f*cked for future generations.


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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
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could not think of a worse idea. its not as if its worked anywhere in the past. smaller towns in these areas get zero benefits and are the ones who become problem towns where some never were. worst thing in my area is saying we ar part of bradford. no one wants to be even our local mp who wants the opposite happening and these areas split up as before.


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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:51 am 
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Poolie27 wrote:
It's not good for local democracy

its worse for ratepayers who will still be paying for a local town council and the new metropolitan one on top. two doing the job one are doing now.


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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:13 am 
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I can’t recall a time when the ruling elite have been so out of touch with the general public as they are at the present time. On so many issues they seem to be oblivious to the concerns of the electorate. The Labour Party ,in particular, seem to have completely abandoned their core voters . They will get severely punished at the next G.E.


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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:40 am 
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The population of the Tees Valley is per the ONS.

Dton 106k
Pools 93k
Boro 141k
Redcar &Cleveland 136k
Stockton 196k

So why does Mbro get all the attention and money?
If Mbro ever gets City status it will just mean more money getting siphoned off and the surrounding areas will be the losers.

The government needs to start pumping money into the forgotten areas unfortunately its current formula is rigged to make investment in London and the south east look more attractive.
Change the formula......................easy!

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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:54 am 
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PTID wrote:
Same as Durham have ruined all the surrounding towns and villages. Higher Council Tax for a c£150k house in a former mining village than in a c£500k riverside property in Durham city. And virtually no local amenities as the villages and towns grow disproportionally as the new houses (and increased CT take for Durham) are thrown up at alarming rates.
The country is f*cked for future generations.


Havnt Reform won a massive majority in Durham and run the Council? Would have thought they would be all over this kind of thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:58 am 
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Think Reform are out of their depth at the moment in Durham, Farage was full of bluster about what they'd do and not do. So far not much happening except that they've announced they're going to do a consultation with the residents of Co Durham to establish what are the priorities.


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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
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Looked it up the majority is way bigger than I thought, they must have had even the back of a fag packet set of things they were going to do, in fairness I think unfair council tax allocation wouldn’t be one.


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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 3:30 pm 
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Poolie27 wrote:
It's not good for local democracy


Democracy, Dead and buried.


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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 3:33 pm 
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Corner Flag wrote:
I can’t recall a time when the ruling elite have been so out of touch with the general public as they are at the present time. On so many issues they seem to be oblivious to the concerns of the electorate. The Labour Party ,in particular, seem to have completely abandoned their core voters . They will get severely punished at the next G.E.


The Labour Party ( :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: ) have an agenda that does NOT involve the British public.


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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
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Job creation, reams of new headed paper required with the new logoand all the vehicles being resprayed in the new logo, just a cash cow same as Cleveland was, how many new posts will be created ?


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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Job creation, reams of new headed paper required with the new logoand all the vehicles being resprayed in the new logo, just a cash cow same as Cleveland was, how many new posts will be created ?

We’ll be treated like some irksome distant province on the edge of the ‘Metropolis’….and left to rot…if you want to see where your money ends up go through to the Boro…..incidentally my recollections of Pools and Cleveland County Council are not positive.
But they did pull their puddings out to get the Riverside completed on time.

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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Job creation, reams of new headed paper required with the new logoand all the vehicles being resprayed in the new logo, just a cash cow same as Cleveland was, how many new posts will be created ?

and brown envelopes.


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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:42 am 
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We already have the Tees Valley quango, if they are so determined just amalgamate the councils into the Tees Valley quango.


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 Post subject: Re: Local government reorganisation
PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 5:40 pm 
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The Tees Valley authority have limited powers, local Government realignment will be a catastrophe in comparison for everyone but Middlesbrough.

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