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 Post subject: Re: What do we think the Fan Split truly is
PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:04 am 
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
When hartlepools united went to hartlepool united did everyone stop going? If we go bust and start again so what it's the same bloody town same fans same ground. We need this guy out of the club he is killing it. 10 players and were back in training soon it's fucking pathetic.


2 has been coaches
2 kids
And a superb/shit forward line of Folarin Campbell n the x Darlo lad.
And Parkes will struggle to hold that back 4 together.

Early days but the bookies odds of 4/5 for relegation ain't food for optimism.

I wonder what Stella signing comes in next week to boom the Full price ST Sales. :angry-tappingfoot: :lol:


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Who's claiming to be a superfan?
When have we ever been in div 6?
Who's said they'll sack the club off after Admin if it happens?
Who's said that a Phoenix club would play at the Vic, the lease agreement is with the present club?
As for sneaking back in, what an absolute laugh that is considering most who're advocating Raj out no matter if it causes the liquidation of the club haven't seen the inside of the Vic in years!


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We have multiple people yes multiple people wanting to buy the club the only person who will put us in liquidation is the great man himself raj Singh. So if he is going to do it, he will. He needs driving out of town and quickly.


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Div 6 26/27.

33/34 season you will be sat next to me under a new Bunker name.


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PTID wrote:
As for sneaking back in, what an absolute laugh that is considering most who're advocating Raj out no matter if it causes the liquidation of the club haven't seen the inside of the Vic in years!


Oh so so true.
Add to that that most of the f/kers behind the "boycott" movement on here are miserable, pompous, pretentious, and know it all old buggers, who have limited time left on the planet.
So it makes no odds to these types what happens, cos more than likely they won't be around to see it.
They will not be able to revel in the consequences of their little "we are not sheep and we have balls" uprising.
And of course, they all have their firesticks to make sure they don't miss owt in the meantime.
Utterly pathetic. :laugh:


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
We have multiple people yes multiple people wanting to buy the club the only person who will put us in liquidation is the great man himself raj Singh. So if he is going to do it, he will. He needs driving out of town and quickly.


You're right Billy.
Yes "multiple people".. including me. :laugh:
Unfortunately all of them appear to have champagne tastes and beer money.
Like all the middle class woke professional types running HUST.
Go check out "Herd Group" and tell me who they are?
Shelley Hammond a local "businesswoman" according to Radio Tees and the local media.
Yeah, fine shes local.. but what businesses has she ever owned or what does she own now?
How many people does she employ?
What are her companies turnover and profits??
She is likely just a "front" for someone else, who might just be a little too embarrassed to declare their interest until there is no going back?
You have heard the phrase a "useful idiot" I assume?? :laugh:


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Poolie1968 wrote:
PTID wrote:
As for sneaking back in, what an absolute laugh that is considering most who're advocating Raj out no matter if it causes the liquidation of the club haven't seen the inside of the Vic in years!


Oh so so true.
Add to that that most of the f/kers behind the "boycott" movement on here are miserable, pompous, pretentious, and know all it all old buggers, who have limited time left on the planet.
So it makes no odds to these types what happens, cos more than likely they won't be around to see it.
They will not be able to revel in the consequences of their little "we are not sheep and we have balls" uprising.
And of course, they all have their firesticks to make sure they don't miss owt in the meantime.
Utterly pathetic. :laugh:


So ya think its good that fans against Sing are better off dead.

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 Post subject: Re: What do we think the Fan Split truly is
PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:55 am 
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Poolie1968 wrote:
PTID wrote:
As for sneaking back in, what an absolute laugh that is considering most who're advocating Raj out no matter if it causes the liquidation of the club haven't seen the inside of the Vic in years!


Oh so so true.
Add to that that most of the f/kers behind the "boycott" movement on here are miserable, pompous, pretentious, and know all it all old buggers, who have limited time left on the planet.
So it makes no odds to these types what happens, cos more than likely they won't be around to see it.
They will not be able to revel in the consequences of their little "we are not sheep and we have balls" uprising.
And of course, they all have their firesticks to make sure they don't miss owt in the meantime.
Utterly pathetic. :laugh:


You are Complicit in the constant underachieving, chaotic, laughing stock, shameful, slowly dying shitshow that is Hartlepool United. I'll take miserable and pompous over that any day of the week.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:57 am 
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Poolie1968 wrote:
PTID wrote:
As for sneaking back in, what an absolute laugh that is considering most who're advocating Raj out no matter if it causes the liquidation of the club haven't seen the inside of the Vic in years!


Oh so so true.
Add to that that most of the f/kers behind the "boycott" movement on here are miserable, pompous, pretentious, and know all it all old buggers, who have limited time left on the planet.
So it makes no odds to these types what happens, cos more than likely they won't be around to see it.
They will not be able to revel in the consequences of their little "we are not sheep and we have balls" uprising.
And of course, they all have their firesticks to make sure they don't miss owt in the meantime.
Utterly pathetic. :laugh:

Got new instructions from your fat controller have you.…….more cobblers on the new script for our resident yapping dog.


Oh dear.

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 Post subject: Re: What do we think the Fan Split truly is
PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:03 am 
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Poolie1968 wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
We have multiple people yes multiple people wanting to buy the club the only person who will put us in liquidation is the great man himself raj Singh. So if he is going to do it, he will. He needs driving out of town and quickly.


You're right Billy.
Yes "multiple people".. including me. :laugh:
Unfortunately all of them appear to have champagne tastes and beer money.
Like all the middle class woke professional types running HUST.
Go check out "Herd Group" and tell me who they are?
Shelley Hammond a local "businesswoman" according to Radio Tees and the local media.
Yeah, fine shes local.. but what businesses has she ever owned or what does she own now?
How many people does she employ?
What are her companies turnover and profits??
She is likely just a "front" for someone else, who might just be a little too embarrassed to declare their interest until there is no going back?
You have heard the phrase a "useful idiot" I assume?? :laugh:


This propaganda is just so poor ……it’s entertaining….but glaringly embarassing.
Someone role playing a Poolie …. reading from a script thay would make Josef Goebbels blush.
There is indeed useful idiots, you’re not, just a plain idiot posing as a fan.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:10 am 
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PTID wrote:
Who's claiming to be a superfan?
When have we ever been in div 6?
Dunno, you tell us.

Who's said they'll sack the club off after Admin if it happens?
I think you dreamed that one up.

Who's said that a Phoenix club would play at the Vic, the lease agreement is with the present club?
Now that’s just a self justifying excuse to make you look right, you aren’t

As for sneaking back in, what an absolute laugh that is considering most who're advocating Raj out no matter if it causes the liquidation of the club haven't seen the inside of the Vic in years!
Ooooo you’re getting bitter now…but you would sneak back in though ….and still you wear your season ticket like a medal to look down on the plebs.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:17 am 
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Poolie1968 wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
We have multiple people yes multiple people wanting to buy the club the only person who will put us in liquidation is the great man himself raj Singh. So if he is going to do it, he will. He needs driving out of town and quickly.


You're right Billy.
Yes "multiple people".. including me. :laugh:
Unfortunately all of them appear to have champagne tastes and beer money.
Like all the middle class woke professional types running HUST.
Go check out "Herd Group" and tell me who they are?
Shelley Hammond a local "businesswoman" according to Radio Tees and the local media.
Yeah, fine shes local.. but what businesses has she ever owned or what does she own now?
How many people does she employ?
What are her companies turnover and profits??
She is likely just a "front" for someone else, who might just be a little too embarrassed to declare their interest until there is no going back?
You have heard the phrase a "useful idiot" I assume?? :laugh:

Hi John,
Would be great for you, as our fans rep, to answer a few questions.
Do you think the last few seasons have been good enough?
If the answer is no, what has been put in place by the club to hopefully improve on the last few seasons? Where do you think it’s gone wrong?
If the answer is yes, why do you think this?

Do you think Raj is doing everything he can to ensure a sale can be concluded for the club he no longer wants to own?
And do you think Raj’s valuation of the club/amount he wants back from his loans (which as I understand it is a 7 figure amount) is putting off buyers/preventing the swift sale of the club to new owners?
Thank you for your time, I await your answers.
Yours sincerely,
A fan you represent.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:27 am 
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Snowy wrote:
Poolie1968 wrote:
PTID wrote:
As for sneaking back in, what an absolute laugh that is considering most who're advocating Raj out no matter if it causes the liquidation of the club haven't seen the inside of the Vic in years!


Oh so so true.
Add to that that most of the f/kers behind the "boycott" movement on here are miserable, pompous, pretentious, and know all it all old buggers, who have limited time left on the planet.
So it makes no odds to these types what happens, cos more than likely they won't be around to see it.
They will not be able to revel in the consequences of their little "we are not sheep and we have balls" uprising.
And of course, they all have their firesticks to make sure they don't miss owt in the meantime.
Utterly pathetic. :laugh:

Got new instructions from your fat controller have you.…….more cobblers on the new script for our resident yapping dog.


Oh dear.


Hes gone offline to think of his next username.

Im going with.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:33 am 
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Krampesh wrote:
Poolie1968 wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
We have multiple people yes multiple people wanting to buy the club the only person who will put us in liquidation is the great man himself raj Singh. So if he is going to do it, he will. He needs driving out of town and quickly.


You're right Billy.
Yes "multiple people".. including me. :laugh:
Unfortunately all of them appear to have champagne tastes and beer money.
Like all the middle class woke professional types running HUST.
Go check out "Herd Group" and tell me who they are?
Shelley Hammond a local "businesswoman" according to Radio Tees and the local media.
Yeah, fine shes local.. but what businesses has she ever owned or what does she own now?
How many people does she employ?
What are her companies turnover and profits??
She is likely just a "front" for someone else, who might just be a little too embarrassed to declare their interest until there is no going back?
You have heard the phrase a "useful idiot" I assume?? :laugh:

Hi John,
Would be great for you, as our fans rep, to answer a few questions.
Do you think the last few seasons have been good enough?
If the answer is no, what has been put in place by the club to hopefully improve on the last few seasons? Where do you think it’s gone wrong?
If the answer is yes, why do you think this?

Do you think Raj is doing everything he can to ensure a sale can be concluded for the club he no longer wants to own?
And do you think Raj’s valuation of the club/amount he wants back from his loans (which as I understand it is a 7 figure amount) is putting off buyers/preventing the swift sale of the club to new owners?
Thank you for your time, I await your answers.
Yours sincerely,
A fan you represent.


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So Snowy can you guarantee the lease would be renewed with a new tenant? I'm asking the question because I don't know, apparently as you're claiming it's an excuse you can give that guarantee because you have some divine knowledge or inside info? Now seeing as you're constantly harping in about lack of info from the club, surely it's only fair that you enlighten us?
Don't know how many times I have to say it, but I don't have a season ticket, don't know if I'll get one, don't know if I'll go to matches this season, but I certainly don't look down on anyone who's never had one.


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PTID wrote:
So Snowy can you guarantee the lease would be renewed with a new tenant? I'm asking the question because I don't know, apparently as you're claiming it's an excuse you can give that guarantee because you have some divine knowledge or inside info? Now seeing as you're constantly harping in about lack of info from the club, surely it's only fair that you enlighten us?
Don't know how many times I have to say it, but I don't have a season ticket, don't know if I'll get one, don't know if I'll go to matches this season, but I certainly don't look down on anyone who's never had one.

Stop stop stop … do you go through life expecting the worst case scenario and don’t step over the doorstep…?
Yes I’m ‘harping on about lack of info’ like most people on here because if you haven’t noticed there is no info.
I’m asking questions because I have no answers …so why expect me to enlighten you, because if I knew, I’d spill the beans with relish…so don’t defend the club by putting the onus on me for asking the question, they have ALL the answers.

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Snowy wrote:
I suspect some loyal fans think it an abomination to sink too far down and jump ship…but that’s not what real fans do.

its not, but there is a minimum level they are prepared to watch football at. if we id drop say 3 divisions how many of last seasons fans would still bother attending games even if pools were doing well. then they,d drift back once the club reached the minimum level they feel comfortable watching. anyway i cannot see a bury situation coming up once the season gets underway. more like a 12 points deduction for going into admin that might or not give us a relegation anyway. the plus side is some might actually return next season with singh gone and new ownership even if the task on the pitch seems mission impossible.


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Poolie1968 wrote:
PTID wrote:
As for sneaking back in, what an absolute laugh that is considering most who're advocating Raj out no matter if it causes the liquidation of the club haven't seen the inside of the Vic in years!


Oh so so true.
Add to that that most of the f/kers behind the "boycott" movement on here are miserable, pompous, pretentious, and know it all old buggers, who have limited time left on the planet.
So it makes no odds to these types what happens, cos more than likely they won't be around to see it.
They will not be able to revel in the consequences of their little "we are not sheep and we have balls" uprising.
And of course, they all have their firesticks to make sure they don't miss owt in the meantime.
Utterly pathetic. :laugh:

i,m waiting for some fan or more likely group who will attempt to organise a boycott or some other actions like a march to the vic or an organised protest outside the ground like other clubs have done in the past. without anything organised like that we are just wasting our time moaning or doing individual actions.


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Poolie1968 wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
We have multiple people yes multiple people wanting to buy the club the only person who will put us in liquidation is the great man himself raj Singh. So if he is going to do it, he will. He needs driving out of town and quickly.


You're right Billy.
Yes "multiple people".. including me. :laugh:
Unfortunately all of them appear to have champagne tastes and beer money.
Like all the middle class woke professional types running HUST.
Go check out "Herd Group" and tell me who they are?
Shelley Hammond a local "businesswoman" according to Radio Tees and the local media.
Yeah, fine shes local.. but what businesses has she ever owned or what does she own now?
How many people does she employ?
What are her companies turnover and profits??
She is likely just a "front" for someone else, who might just be a little too embarrassed to declare their interest until there is no going back?
You have heard the phrase a "useful idiot" I assume?? :laugh:

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Wow, this thread really got interesting! Am I right that’s a club director bitterly sniping about fans and useful idiots? Can anyone remember a time when the club was run so unprofessionally? Am praying that one of these parties takes over soon and is able to put to bed what has been an absolutely mental period for our club.

The questions put to the fan rep above are excellent and really pertinent. Instead of slating a new owner who hasn’t actually bought the club yet, why not tell us what the alternative is and why it’s better?


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It's definitely mental Mikey76....surely he won't show his face at Pools when Raj finally fucks off...he's totally complicit in this shit show.


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he goes only to be replaced by another. even if fans themselves voted one into the position, there is a good chance within a few months that they,ll sound more of a boards rep than a fans one. seen too many union reps in my life who sold out to management after being in there company. like it or not its them and us and you would need to be a strong person to be poacher and gamekeeper at the same time.


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Poolie1968 wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
We have multiple people yes multiple people wanting to buy the club the only person who will put us in liquidation is the great man himself raj Singh. So if he is going to do it, he will. He needs driving out of town and quickly.


You're right Billy.
Yes "multiple people".. including me. :laugh:
Unfortunately all of them appear to have champagne tastes and beer money.
Like all the middle class woke professional types running HUST.
Go check out "Herd Group" and tell me who they are?
Shelley Hammond a local "businesswoman" according to Radio Tees and the local media.
Yeah, fine shes local.. but what businesses has she ever owned or what does she own now?
How many people does she employ?
What are her companies turnover and profits??
She is likely just a "front" for someone else, who might just be a little too embarrassed to declare their interest until there is no going back?
You have heard the phrase a "useful idiot" I assume?? :laugh:


Must be something there, Or Raj would NOT have accepted an offer.
He did accept an offer ?, The down payment for DD to take place was deposited otherwise HERD would have been branded a "Timewasters" thats obvious.

WHY is there an insistence from people within the club to bad mouth Shelley Hammond, I,m beginning to believe this has nothing to do with the club.
But is of personal nature.


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he goes only to be replaced by another. even if fans themselves voted one into the position, there is a good chance within a few months that they,ll sound more of a boards rep than a fans one. seen too many union reps in my life who sold out to management after being in there company. like it or not its them and us and you would need to be a strong person to be poacher and gamekeeper at the same time.

Aye, no doubt a tricky job but he didn’t even try to communicate effectively, that’s surely a big part of the role. And if there is a fan anywhere near the board in future, you’d hope they’d have the self-discipline to stay of social media, avoid creating multiple fake aliases and avoid slagging fans off.
But we’re getting carried away - Raj is still here.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
Poolie1968 wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
We have multiple people yes multiple people wanting to buy the club the only person who will put us in liquidation is the great man himself raj Singh. So if he is going to do it, he will. He needs driving out of town and quickly.


You're right Billy.
Yes "multiple people".. including me. :laugh:
Unfortunately all of them appear to have champagne tastes and beer money.
Like all the middle class woke professional types running HUST.
Go check out "Herd Group" and tell me who they are?
Shelley Hammond a local "businesswoman" according to Radio Tees and the local media.
Yeah, fine shes local.. but what businesses has she ever owned or what does she own now?
How many people does she employ?
What are her companies turnover and profits??
She is likely just a "front" for someone else, who might just be a little too embarrassed to declare their interest until there is no going back?
You have heard the phrase a "useful idiot" I assume?? :laugh:


Must be something there, Or Raj would NOT have accepted an offer.
He did accept an offer ?, The down payment for DD to take place was deposited otherwise HERD would have been branded a "Timewasters" thats obvious.

WHY is there an insistence from people within the club to bad mouth Shelley Hammond, I,m beginning to believe this has nothing to do with the club.
But is of personal nature.


Yes. Someone is fearful of being booted off the gravy train.


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Mikey76 wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
he goes only to be replaced by another. even if fans themselves voted one into the position, there is a good chance within a few months that they,ll sound more of a boards rep than a fans one. seen too many union reps in my life who sold out to management after being in there company. like it or not its them and us and you would need to be a strong person to be poacher and gamekeeper at the same time.

Aye, no doubt a tricky job but he didn’t even try to communicate effectively, that’s surely a big part of the role. And if there is a fan anywhere near the board in future, you’d hope they’d have the self-discipline to stay of social media, avoid creating multiple fake aliases and avoid slagging fans off.
But we’re getting carried away - Raj is still here.

true, but i,d add to this that not everyone one who wants raj gone would not blank him if he was sat on his own in a motorway services but sit next to him and be friendly. met too many in all my years with many faces and knives ready to stab you in the back you thought were mates. worked ith someone who became a football league ref who lived up to his nickname. dick double cross. richard poulain if any can remember him.


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loyal_fan wrote:
Aware social media is not fully representative of sentiment but it appears to be almost universally negative against Singh and his band of not so merry men.

I wonder if the wider fan base is more evenly split?--Ie will it get fairly mild by the time the season kicks off with fans willing to give it a go or do we think it's going to be severely toxic from day 1?

I appreciate moods can change, including mine, but right now it feels like a shitshow from day 1 scenario as oppose to, we got a couple of early wins lets see how it goes scenario..

think fans are more together on this subject than they are if we re discussing a single player. the split only is in there intentions for next season when it starts if things are the same.


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Mikey76 wrote:
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he goes only to be replaced by another. even if fans themselves voted one into the position, there is a good chance within a few months that they,ll sound more of a boards rep than a fans one. seen too many union reps in my life who sold out to management after being in there company. like it or not its them and us and you would need to be a strong person to be poacher and gamekeeper at the same time.

Aye, no doubt a tricky job but he didn’t even try to communicate effectively, that’s surely a big part of the role. And if there is a fan anywhere near the board in future, you’d hope they’d have the self-discipline to stay of social media, avoid creating multiple fake aliases and avoid slagging fans off.
But we’re getting carried away - Raj is still here.

If he does stay, we’ll all end up being carried away on a stretcher.

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 Post subject: Re: What do we think the Fan Split truly is
PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 1:27 pm 
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
We have multiple people yes multiple people wanting to buy the club the only person who will put us in liquidation is the great man himself raj Singh. So if he is going to do it, he will. He needs driving out of town and quickly.


You're right Billy.
Yes "multiple people".. including me. :laugh:
Unfortunately all of them appear to have champagne tastes and beer money.
Like all the middle class woke professional types running HUST.
Go check out "Herd Group" and tell me who they are?
Shelley Hammond a local "businesswoman" according to Radio Tees and the local media.
Yeah, fine shes local.. but what businesses has she ever owned or what does she own now?
How many people does she employ?
What are her companies turnover and profits??
She is likely just a "front" for someone else, who might just be a little too embarrassed to declare their interest until there is no going back?
You have heard the phrase a "useful idiot" I assume?? :laugh:


It's good to have you back poolie1 I thought after the Kevin Phillips decision you had given up.


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Is this 1968 character really pear son? Or are we just speculating? Definitely writes like an insider with an agenda but could just be a shit stirrer or even someone with a genuine misguided opinion


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