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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:15 am 
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Our only chance is to scrape into the play offs and then fluke our way to the efl in what will effectively be cup ties. To do any of that we should be finishing teams off when we're dominating as we were yesterday 1st half? Trying to protect a 1 goal lead has rarely ever worked for us and inevitably cost us 2 points again.
Even with injuries and a weak bench we should have pressed on and won the game.


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:03 am 
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Lawrence must have managed nearly 1000 games. I wonder how many times he has trotted out the same crap as he did yesterday. He is beyond a joke. He was the one who got Sarll in.


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
So the injuries to Grey and Mancini are Lennie and Raj's fault? sctatchinghead


Mancini wasnt even getting his game not so long back, so losing 2 players against wealdstone shouldnt really be an excuse im sure they had a few out too.


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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PTID wrote:
Not trying to deflect anything from Raj, I'm making comments and asking questions referring to the title thread. The manager f*cked up big style yesterday imo.
Raj and his board have f*cked up royally with the majority of manager appointments there's no getting away from that. But yesterday's capitulation was down to what happened on the pitch and in the dressing room at half time, not in the boardroom.


Thing is though if the chairman allows the manager to have strength in depth, allows him to bring in quality defenders a decent midfield, results and 2nd half performances like yesterday dont tend to happen as much, unfortunately its a regular occurence, under many different managers.


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Lennie has done alright since taking over, not sure what his record is like but barring york and gateshead he has done ok with this team. The problem is and always will be the chairman consistently picking managers on the cheap, then having to change them half way through the season after blowing what budget he has had.

Now the manager will once again be made the scapegoat because he cant bring replacements in. We are treading water, utterly pointless making the play offs because we will get turned over by the first real decent team we play. Might as well write the season off and move onto next, not sure if anything will change apart from possibly having a lively game or two with carlisle instead of some southern team.

Quicker he puts the club up for sale the better. We are getting very close to the point of anybody could be no worse. the best we can hope for is one new kid coming in which i seriously doubt is what lennie wants unless his age has addled his brain. a well run team with a decent budget should be looking to replace even their better players with better ones unlike pools who seem to live from game to game with no long term plans for the future. its not just coming back from wealdstone which is the problem as holding out and bringing back home 3 points is only covering the cracks. its not as if the fans have been shouting for any of the managerial appointments we have had since challinor apart from possibly askey who got the boot when the team was really down to bare bones without a striker to pick from.


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
So the injuries to Grey and Mancini are Lennie and Raj's fault? sctatchinghead


Mancini wasnt even getting his game not so long back, so losing 2 players against wealdstone shouldnt really be an excuse im sure they had a few out too.

losing both of them probebly weakens the side going forward more than in other positions because on their day they can be match winners and offer something different to what we have got.


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
I mentioned how weak our subs bench was before the game.

That played a major part in not seeing the game out.
Had we won it would of been a combination of daylight robbery and a Stella performance from our keeper.

As for us so called Doomsters from the few who have zero ambitions.
You are 100% wrong if you think that we enjoy coming on here moaning about how shit we are.


Id Luv to comment after a game and say well done everyone one after an excellent win n performance.

But it's the Chairman Manager Boardroom n Players who stop me doing that.


Like I say the concerned fans don't make these results.
It's 2 wins in a row only once this season.
That's not promotion by the back door of finishing 7th.
Far from it.


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 12:23 pm 
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Also their goal took a huge deflection, that's not to say we weren't under the cosh, we would have lost that game under Sarll, look a point at Wealdstone isn't the end of the world, look at York yesterday losing at home to Sutton, that was unexpected.

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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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On the manager appointments, I guess it also comes down to two things; firstly what Pools will pay and who applies. I can’t imagine the former is particularly attractive and as for applicants, do you really believe that given our track record good managers are queuing up?


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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On the manager appointments, I guess it also comes down to two things; firstly what Pools will pay and who applies. I can’t imagine the former is particularly attractive and as for applicants, do you really believe that given our track record good managers are queuing up?


Pools currently have a Manager and 2 coaches, Lawrence is there till the end of the season then the coaches take over do they not ?


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Think we have to accept too that we'll only get managers who are out of work eg Challinor who was sacked by Fylde, or Turner who was a youth coach looking to go to a new level.
We've tried managers who've been top tier and from obscurity but rarely have any clicked.


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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PTID wrote:
Think we have to accept too that we'll only get managers who are out of work eg Challinor who was sacked by Fylde, or Turner who was a youth coach looking to go to a new level.
We've tried managers who've been top tier and from obscurity but rarely have any clicked.

still feel some since challinor could have been given a bit longer in the job. only sarll and hartley have been massive failures and nothing improved really after the others were shown the door. it would be hard to imagine things being worse under lee than it was with hartley and the same with phillips compared to sarll. thats our trouble going backwards instead of forwards and chucking money away on it.


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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PTID wrote:
He (or his board) have got it badly wrong again without doubt, I'm still convinced Lenny thinks it's 2 points for a draw. I'd go along with the suggestion of moving Lawrence out of the picture and letting the guy who's going to do the job next season a go.
It's been quite clear to most of us all season where we are lacking, pace, creativity, support up front for Mani, to name a few areas. Yet our vastly experienced Head Coach doesn't see it?


He thinks it’s still 1980,when it was 2 points for a win,1 for a draw& win at home,draw would get you promotion.


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Also their goal took a huge deflection, that's not to say we weren't under the cosh, we would have lost that game under Sarll, look a point at Wealdstone isn't the end of the world, look at York yesterday losing at home to Sutton, that was unexpected.


Oh dear, that's success for Pools now is it? Better than Sarll . Oh my word. You might be right if yesterday's mediocrity was within the context of an overall bright era for the club, but it isn't.


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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He is no fool, he said himself we had no pace on the pitch and fuck all on the bench ….he thenbasically said it is what it is and on we go….the club is just taking the piss and going through the motions it’s so depressing


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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Also their goal took a huge deflection, that's not to say we weren't under the cosh, we would have lost that game under Sarll, look a point at Wealdstone isn't the end of the world, look at York yesterday losing at home to Sutton, that was unexpected.


So going on that philosophy of other teams results.

We might as well not travel to Barnet 28th Jan and Sutton 8th Feb. sctatchinghead
Well now that's two games I'm not even thinking about getting more than 1 point from.

The Hope (self inflicted brutal desease) has finally left my interlectual :lol: brain.
And will now only return under new Ownership.
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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
On the manager appointments, I guess it also comes down to two things; firstly what Pools will pay and who applies. I can’t imagine the former is particularly attractive and as for applicants, do you really believe that given our track record good managers are queuing up?


Whether any fan accepts it or not.

We have become a last resort club for Managers and Players who can't find employment at any other club.

FH might disagree because he thinks we are blessed to have that lazy bastad MannyD on the payroll with his 50k a week wages.

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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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He is no fool, he said himself we had no pace on the pitch and fuck all on the bench ….he thenbasically said it is what it is and on we go….the club is just taking the piss and going through the motions it’s so depressing


He's a grade 1.Fraudster we're only 1 club is gullible enuf to fall for his cockney bullshit.

And anutha mug Takeing the piss.
Ronnie Moore must be the worst Chief Scout we've ever had.
Probably gets pissed everyday watching the
Great Escape Season.
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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
On the manager appointments, I guess it also comes down to two things; firstly what Pools will pay and who applies. I can’t imagine the former is particularly attractive and as for applicants, do you really believe that given our track record good managers are queuing up?


Spot on !

Lennie is cheap, and probably desperate to work, rather than sit most of the day in a Coffee shop in Yarm touting for work. Given his old skool outlook, he is probably as good as Pools could get in their current situation. Lennie will keep Pools up, some of the past managers would've taken Pools down with this motley crew of players, and yet some of those managers came here with decent CVs, Sarll, Curle, Askey, what is it with Pools?. Lennie is aware of the limitations of the players at his disposal, he won't chase a win just to appease the fans, when he knows fine well by doing so, we could throw away all 3 points. However the likes of Lennie will never get Pools promoted or into the play offs. certainly not without serious money getting spent on serious players. As usual 3 or 4 signings will be made shortly, the usual 3 or 4 flawed characters, and so it goes on...and on, rinse and repeat.

Mr I could've even said...

On the signing of players, I guess it also comes down to two things; firstly what Pools will pay and who wants to come. I can’t imagine the former is particularly attractive and as for interested players, do you really believe that given our track record good players are interested?.

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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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one thing that sarll did get correct was recruiting players from the NE. really we are in a position where we only need to pay more than gateshead and teams in the northern section like spenny. We are not london area based where teams like wealdstone have to fight off interest from literally dozens of clubs where the player could get a bus ride to another club.


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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accrington fan wrote:
one thing that sarll did get correct was recruiting players from the NE. really we are in a position where we only need to pay more than gateshead and teams in the northern section like spenny. We are not london area based where teams like wealdstone have to fight off interest from literally dozens of clubs where the player could get a bus ride to another club.


We had a great opportunity to cherry pick some of Gateshead finest who were out of contract.

Instead we took the usual cheap option of keeping shite like Fergy n Fevs and the new signings didn't turn out as great as Leggie expected.

Our league position represents the level of Ambition the club is run at.

Yet only last week
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Former players
And current players were coming out with shit that a genuine promotion assault was about to start at Wealdstone.

Unfortunately for the fans it ended at that tinpot club who we beat 7 2 under DC.
Ah well


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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Lawrence is not daft he knows what we are lacking, his hands are tied!
Wait until Featherstone is put in charge next year............................


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Shoe string budget, managers salaries are stuff none of us know about though do we? My guess is that our budget is in the highest 3rd at least for this division when you consider where some of our recent signings have come from.
Raj has committed to financing only up until June so there may indeed be very dark times ahead.


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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Was replying to a different thread so not sure how this ended up in here?


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 Post subject: Re: Lawrence out
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
one thing that sarll did get correct was recruiting players from the NE. really we are in a position where we only need to pay more than gateshead and teams in the northern section like spenny. We are not london area based where teams like wealdstone have to fight off interest from literally dozens of clubs where the player could get a bus ride to another club.


We had a great opportunity to cherry pick some of Gateshead finest who were out of contract.

Instead we took the usual cheap option of keeping shite like Fergy n Fevs and the new signings didn't turn out as great as Leggie expected.

Our league position represents the level of Ambition the club is run at.

Yet only last week
Radio Tees
Former players
And current players were coming out with shit that a genuine promotion assault was about to start at Wealdstone.

Unfortunately for the fans it ended at that tinpot club who we beat 7 2 under DC.
Ah well

for a start i suspect that from the outset fevs was not seen as a regular starter and we,d have seen less and less of him rather than the other way round. radio tees cannot say too much officially byt ex players especially could say it as it really is even though some would accuse them of never liking the club in the first place and have their own agenda with the club. actually does lennie really think we are genuinly in a promotion push or really thinks its a case of losing as few games as possible to see where it goes.


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accrington fan wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
one thing that sarll did get correct was recruiting players from the NE. really we are in a position where we only need to pay more than gateshead and teams in the northern section like spenny. We are not london area based where teams like wealdstone have to fight off interest from literally dozens of clubs where the player could get a bus ride to another club.


We had a great opportunity to cherry pick some of Gateshead finest who were out of contract.

Instead we took the usual cheap option of keeping shite like Fergy n Fevs and the new signings didn't turn out as great as Leggie expected.

Our league position represents the level of Ambition the club is run at.

Yet only last week
Radio Tees
Former players
And current players were coming out with shit that a genuine promotion assault was about to start at Wealdstone.

Unfortunately for the fans it ended at that tinpot club who we beat 7 2 under DC.
Ah well

for a start i suspect that from the outset fevs was not seen as a regular starter and we,d have seen less and less of him rather than the other way round. radio tees cannot say too much officially byt ex players especially could say it as it really is even though some would accuse them of never liking the club in the first place and have their own agenda with the club. actually does lennie really think we are genuinly in a promotion push or really thinks its a case of losing as few games as possible to see where it goes.


Would Tee’s still do live coverage if Pools dropped into the NLN or would it be split with reports from Darlos and Pools games, I believe it would be.


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Would Tee’s still do live coverage if Pools dropped into the NLN or would it be split with reports from Darlos and Pools games, I believe it would be.

really doubt that will happen no matter what some i feel would love. same as gaining football league status again. just forget em both and get used to mid table obscurity and getting knocked out of the cups at the first available opportunity.


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