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 Post subject: Lazy Lennie Lawrence ?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:42 pm 
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Anyone think he’s putting a full shift in ?

Same formation every week
Same outfield team every week barring injuries
Subs always late and rarely uses all 5
Seems happy with being ‘no worse off than we are’
Shoulder shrug approach on losing to tamworth
Doesn’t want any new signings….he’s fine with the way things are
Out at end of season and under no real pressure

I get he applied some common sense and steadied the ship but is he really looking at training/pushing the players etc
Team selection and post match interviews suggest otherwise

All seems very comfortable with plodding along , and he shouldn’t be immune from criticism, we have done not much but plodded since he came back and it’s being window dressed as way better than it is


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 Post subject: Re: Lazy Lennie Lawrence ?
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We’ve only lost 1 in 10 since Lawrence took over (except the penalty competition). We lost 5 of the 8 prior to that.

We’ve only won 3 of the 10, which can be improved upon, but it’s better than it was.


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It's not good enough.
It was a get ya money on us piss the league a few months back because of the good talk bullshit talk.

Remedys n cures need to happen now

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Still think we've got the players to do much better, it's team selection and tactics that need sorting to turn some of those draws into wins.
If we had Liverpools squad in this league we'd probably set up to defend a clean sheet and create nothing for isolated striker.
We've got to be more adventurous, especially at home.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
It's not good enough.
It was a get ya money on us piss the league a few months back because of the good talk bullshit talk.

Remedys n cures need to happen now

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Did you put money on Pools pissing the league sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Lazy Lennie Lawrence ?
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Mctee1908 wrote:
We’ve only lost 1 in 10 since Lawrence took over (except the penalty competition). We lost 5 of the 8 prior to that.

We’ve only won 3 of the 10, which can be improved upon, but it’s better than it was.

it is and so are the games i have watched. however it could be better and will be interesting what team and tactics he uses on saturday. its not like he has no other options for both.


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 Post subject: Re: Lazy Lennie Lawrence ?
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I have never been to a training session so have no idea of the level of input each of the coaching staff is responsible for but surely we didn't recruit our two new coaches just to stand and watch, sctatchinghead

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 Post subject: Re: Lazy Lennie Lawrence ?
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Mctee1908 wrote:
We’ve only lost 1 in 10 since Lawrence took over (except the penalty competition). We lost 5 of the 8 prior to that.

We’ve only won 3 of the 10, which can be improved upon, but it’s better than it was.


It's better than it was, but that's a comparison with a very low base line (Darren Sarll!).

Picking the same front 4 week after week in league games is nowhere near working as well as Lennie seems to think it is. Like I said on the Southend thread, only Mani has scored regularly in the games since LL took over and only Charman is getting assists. Joe Grey and Adam Campbell are both hard workers but there's no end product - unless you count 'defending from the front.'


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 Post subject: Re: Lazy Lennie Lawrence ?
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derwent wrote:
I have never been to a training session so have no idea of the level of input each of the coaching staff is responsible for but surely we didn't recruit our two new coaches just to stand and watch, sctatchinghead

but he is not going to be part of recruiting the two if they have a complete opposite view on how the game will be played to him. one anyway is part of the youth network so cannot see him having much imput.


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 Post subject: Re: Lazy Lennie Lawrence ?
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accrington fan wrote:
derwent wrote:
I have never been to a training session so have no idea of the level of input each of the coaching staff is responsible for but surely we didn't recruit our two new coaches just to stand and watch, sctatchinghead

but he is not going to be part of recruiting the two if they have a complete opposite view on how the game will be played to him. one anyway is part of the youth network so cannot see him having much imput.


I don't know for definite who is responsible for what anymore, ever since the new board was set up. If LL was involved in the recruitment of the new coaches and fully endorsed their recruitment then I would expect him to value their input. There are that many fingers in the pie (apparently) for me to accurately ascertain just who is responsible for what.
We get to know what the club wants us to know and no more, unless a person wants to make things up, or listen to rumours and whispers from people who claim to have access to info. I try to avoid that as best I can.

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 Post subject: Re: Lazy Lennie Lawrence ?
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derwent wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
derwent wrote:
I have never been to a training session so have no idea of the level of input each of the coaching staff is responsible for but surely we didn't recruit our two new coaches just to stand and watch, sctatchinghead

but he is not going to be part of recruiting the two if they have a complete opposite view on how the game will be played to him. one anyway is part of the youth network so cannot see him having much imput.


I don't know for definite who is responsible for what anymore, ever since the new board was set up. If LL was involved in the recruitment of the new coaches and fully endorsed their recruitment then I would expect him to value their input. There are that many fingers in the pie (apparently) for me to accurately ascertain just who is responsible for what.
We get to know what the club wants us to know and no more, unless a person wants to make things up, or listen to rumours and whispers from people who claim to have access to info. I try to avoid that as best I can.


The OS has already featured Limbrick running a coaching drill with the squad. The other coach (Skelton) has a lower profile than the Aussie but is on the pitch for the warm up then in the dugout for home games.

Don't think either of them has anything directly to do with the academy set up - there's another new bloke (Alex Cross) taken over from Gucky.

Then there's Carl Dickinson (Strength & Conditioning), Danny O'Connor (Physio), Ben Daniel (1st team analyst), an Assistant Physio and of course Joe Monks is still there as Head of football Operations.

It's a Football League set up for a National League club - not much sign of penny pinching there :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Lazy Lennie Lawrence ?
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If you play with 2 holding midfielders against the likes of Tamworth at HOME, Then make your own mind up.


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 Post subject: Re: Lazy Lennie Lawrence ?
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Flying Hogans wrote:
derwent wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
derwent wrote:
I have never been to a training session so have no idea of the level of input each of the coaching staff is responsible for but surely we didn't recruit our two new coaches just to stand and watch, sctatchinghead

but he is not going to be part of recruiting the two if they have a complete opposite view on how the game will be played to him. one anyway is part of the youth network so cannot see him having much imput.


I don't know for definite who is responsible for what anymore, ever since the new board was set up. If LL was involved in the recruitment of the new coaches and fully endorsed their recruitment then I would expect him to value their input. There are that many fingers in the pie (apparently) for me to accurately ascertain just who is responsible for what.
We get to know what the club wants us to know and no more, unless a person wants to make things up, or listen to rumours and whispers from people who claim to have access to info. I try to avoid that as best I can.


The OS has already featured Limbrick running a coaching drill with the squad. The other coach (Skelton) has a lower profile than the Aussie but is on the pitch for the warm up then in the dugout for home games.

Don't think either of them has anything directly to do with the academy set up - there's another new bloke (Alex Cross) taken over from Gucky.

Then there's Carl Dickinson (Strength & Conditioning), Danny O'Connor (Physio), Ben Daniel (1st team analyst), an Assistant Physio and of course Joe Monks is still there as Head of football Operations.

It's a Football League set up for a National League club - not much sign of penny pinching there :lol:


I don't think the club is penny pinching but I would question whether the available funds are being channelled in the right direction. Do we really need all this backroom staff???????????????? Seems a bit OTT to me. But Hey it has nowt to do with me.

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 Post subject: Re: Lazy Lennie Lawrence ?
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derwent wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
derwent wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
derwent wrote:
I have never been to a training session so have no idea of the level of input each of the coaching staff is responsible for but surely we didn't recruit our two new coaches just to stand and watch, sctatchinghead

but he is not going to be part of recruiting the two if they have a complete opposite view on how the game will be played to him. one anyway is part of the youth network so cannot see him having much imput.


I don't know for definite who is responsible for what anymore, ever since the new board was set up. If LL was involved in the recruitment of the new coaches and fully endorsed their recruitment then I would expect him to value their input. There are that many fingers in the pie (apparently) for me to accurately ascertain just who is responsible for what.
We get to know what the club wants us to know and no more, unless a person wants to make things up, or listen to rumours and whispers from people who claim to have access to info. I try to avoid that as best I can.


The OS has already featured Limbrick running a coaching drill with the squad. The other coach (Skelton) has a lower profile than the Aussie but is on the pitch for the warm up then in the dugout for home games.

Don't think either of them has anything directly to do with the academy set up - there's another new bloke (Alex Cross) taken over from Gucky.

Then there's Carl Dickinson (Strength & Conditioning), Danny O'Connor (Physio), Ben Daniel (1st team analyst), an Assistant Physio and of course Joe Monks is still there as Head of football Operations.

It's a Football League set up for a National League club - not much sign of penny pinching there :lol:


I don't think the club is penny pinching but I would question whether the available funds are being channelled in the right direction. Do we really need all this backroom staff???????????????? Seems a bit OTT to me. But Hey it has nowt to do with me.


Disn't suggest you did - but plenty of others do :lol:
I'm with you - money is being spent, but is it spent wisely?


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 Post subject: Re: Lazy Lennie Lawrence ?
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Flying Hogans wrote:
derwent wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
derwent wrote:
I have never been to a training session so have no idea of the level of input each of the coaching staff is responsible for but surely we didn't recruit our two new coaches just to stand and watch, sctatchinghead

but he is not going to be part of recruiting the two if they have a complete opposite view on how the game will be played to him. one anyway is part of the youth network so cannot see him having much imput.


I don't know for definite who is responsible for what anymore, ever since the new board was set up. If LL was involved in the recruitment of the new coaches and fully endorsed their recruitment then I would expect him to value their input. There are that many fingers in the pie (apparently) for me to accurately ascertain just who is responsible for what.
We get to know what the club wants us to know and no more, unless a person wants to make things up, or listen to rumours and whispers from people who claim to have access to info. I try to avoid that as best I can.


The OS has already featured Limbrick running a coaching drill with the squad. The other coach (Skelton) has a lower profile than the Aussie but is on the pitch for the warm up then in the dugout for home games.

Don't think either of them has anything directly to do with the academy set up - there's another new bloke (Alex Cross) taken over from Gucky.

Then there's Carl Dickinson (Strength & Conditioning), Danny O'Connor (Physio), Ben Daniel (1st team analyst), an Assistant Physio and of course Joe Monks is still there as Head of football Operations.

It's a Football League set up for a National League club - not much sign of penny pinching there :lol:


Mid table.
Struggling to win games.
Now struggling to score

What's Efl set up about that like. sctatchinghead :angry-tappingfoot: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Lazy Lennie Lawrence ?
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:

The OS has already featured Limbrick running a coaching drill with the squad. The other coach (Skelton) has a lower profile than the Aussie but is on the pitch for the warm up then in the dugout for home games.

Don't think either of them has anything directly to do with the academy set up - there's another new bloke (Alex Cross) taken over from Gucky.

Then there's Carl Dickinson (Strength & Conditioning), Danny O'Connor (Physio), Ben Daniel (1st team analyst), an Assistant Physio and of course Joe Monks is still there as Head of football Operations.

It's a Football League set up for a National League club - not much sign of penny pinching there :lol:


Mid table.
Struggling to win games.
Now struggling to score

What's Efl set up about that like. sctatchinghead :angry-tappingfoot: :lol:


Doh - Pools currently employ 9 non-playing football staff. Do they all have boots? Maybe they can do better than the players sctatchinghead Or maybe Raj could ship a couple out and bring a couple more players in.


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 Post subject: Re: Lazy Lennie Lawrence ?
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Flying Hogans wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:

The OS has already featured Limbrick running a coaching drill with the squad. The other coach (Skelton) has a lower profile than the Aussie but is on the pitch for the warm up then in the dugout for home games.

Don't think either of them has anything directly to do with the academy set up - there's another new bloke (Alex Cross) taken over from Gucky.

Then there's Carl Dickinson (Strength & Conditioning), Danny O'Connor (Physio), Ben Daniel (1st team analyst), an Assistant Physio and of course Joe Monks is still there as Head of football Operations.

It's a Football League set up for a National League club - not much sign of penny pinching there :lol:


Mid table.
Struggling to win games.
Now struggling to score

What's Efl set up about that like. sctatchinghead :angry-tappingfoot: :lol:


Doh - Pools currently employ 9 non-playing football staff. Do they all have boots? Maybe they can do better than the players sctatchinghead Or maybe Raj could ship a couple out and bring a couple more players in.


What do they call the assistant physio?.

Give you till 6pm to find out or I will take you off the top of the Superfan leader board. :lol:


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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


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derwent wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:

The OS has already featured Limbrick running a coaching drill with the squad. The other coach (Skelton) has a lower profile than the Aussie but is on the pitch for the warm up then in the dugout for home games.

Don't think either of them has anything directly to do with the academy set up - there's another new bloke (Alex Cross) taken over from Gucky.

Then there's Carl Dickinson (Strength & Conditioning), Danny O'Connor (Physio), Ben Daniel (1st team analyst), an Assistant Physio and of course Joe Monks is still there as Head of football Operations.

It's a Football League set up for a National League club - not much sign of penny pinching there :lol:


I don't think the club is penny pinching but I would question whether the available funds are being channelled in the right direction. Do we really need all this backroom staff???????????????? Seems a bit OTT to me. But Hey it has nowt to do with me.

in west yorks its classed has having more coaches than wallace arnold. however are we any different to other clubs in modern day pro football even if we are in non league. if we has less of them than others some would use that to knock the club if we were unsuccesful.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:

The OS has already featured Limbrick running a coaching drill with the squad. The other coach (Skelton) has a lower profile than the Aussie but is on the pitch for the warm up then in the dugout for home games.

Don't think either of them has anything directly to do with the academy set up - there's another new bloke (Alex Cross) taken over from Gucky.

Then there's Carl Dickinson (Strength & Conditioning), Danny O'Connor (Physio), Ben Daniel (1st team analyst), an Assistant Physio and of course Joe Monks is still there as Head of football Operations.

It's a Football League set up for a National League club - not much sign of penny pinching there :lol:


Mid table.
Struggling to win games.
Now struggling to score

What's Efl set up about that like. sctatchinghead :angry-tappingfoot: :lol:





Doh - Pools currently employ 9 non-playing football staff. Do they all have boots? Maybe they can do better than the players sctatchinghead Or maybe Raj could ship a couple out and bring a couple more players in.


What do they call the assistant physio?.

Give you till 6pm to find out or I will take you off the top of the Superfan leader board. :lol:


Look it up yourself lazy arse :lol:


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Flying Hogans wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:

The OS has already featured Limbrick running a coaching drill with the squad. The other coach (Skelton) has a lower profile than the Aussie but is on the pitch for the warm up then in the dugout for home games.

Don't think either of them has anything directly to do with the academy set up - there's another new bloke (Alex Cross) taken over from Gucky.

Then there's Carl Dickinson (Strength & Conditioning), Danny O'Connor (Physio), Ben Daniel (1st team analyst), an Assistant Physio and of course Joe Monks is still there as Head of football Operations.

It's a Football League set up for a National League club - not much sign of penny pinching there :lol:


Mid table.
Struggling to win games.
Now struggling to score

What's Efl set up about that like. sctatchinghead :angry-tappingfoot: :lol:





Doh - Pools currently employ 9 non-playing football staff. Do they all have boots? Maybe they can do better than the players sctatchinghead Or maybe Raj could ship a couple out and bring a couple more players in.


What do they call the assistant physio?.

Give you till 6pm to find out or I will take you off the top of the Superfan leader board. :lol:


Look it up yourself lazy arse :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Lazy Lennie Lawrence ?
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couldn't be arsed with the pre match interview this week, so let Limber do it...maybe needed to get his xmas shopping done.

Wonder if he's in the dugout for all 3 christmas/NY games or has some time off written into his deal to be manager for the rest of the season


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Did he show up for today’s predictable dicking ?


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This is where we are, FFS.

LL post match interview, Think he needs to hang up his Sheepskin Coat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX0BsOWpfII


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If we scored first it might have been different….thats what 50 years of experience gives you

Bloke pissing himself he has this gig, lowest pressure job in the league and gives him a few extra quid for the bingo


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This is where we are, FFS.

LL post match interview, Think he needs to hang up his Sheepskin Coat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX0BsOWpfII


Sadly it's now time for Mr.Burns to step aside. He has done a decent job so far in fairness but he is like a seized engine now simply stuck in the zone. I said before the game that he needs to put Sheron back in midfield and Doddsy fullback against a team known for being strong in midfield. I would also have played Lua Lua instead of Charman who is not even close to this level. Also we did not give 100% today and thats unforgivable. Our defence ( 3 played last season here ) looked petrified of Heed players...mentally scared by last seasons drubbing. sctatchinghead The Oldham game is a must win and we probably need something from Barnet now. rakxe Bad bad day and worrying times but not over just yet. :wink:


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The % of effort is an absolute disgrace.

MannyD top of the list.
Holiday camp.
Run by a 77 year old without any discipline.

We Goin nowhere fast.

Plenty of warnings from the Loids.


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If we scored first it might have been different….thats what 50 years of experience gives you

Bloke pissing himself he has this gig, lowest pressure job in the league and gives him a few extra quid for the bingo


If we had of scored first we would of conceded two minutes later, yet another pathetic display in whats becoming an ever growing list of embarassments under this ownership, only at pools could we appoint someone who retired about 50 yeara ago and some unknowns. They have done ok since coming in but the minute we face anyone remotely good were conceding hatfuls. Beyond a joke this club now.


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loyal_fan wrote:
If we scored first it might have been different….thats what 50 years of experience gives you

Bloke pissing himself he has this gig, lowest pressure job in the league and gives him a few extra quid for the bingo


If we had of scored first we would of conceded two minutes later, yet another pathetic display in whats becoming an ever growing list of embarassments under this ownership, only at pools could we appoint someone who retired about 50 yeara ago and some unknowns. They have done ok since coming in but the minute we face anyone remotely good were conceding hatfuls. Beyond a joke this club now.


Scored first last season and ended up getting beat 7-1 :roll:

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loyal_fan wrote:
If we scored first it might have been different….thats what 50 years of experience gives you

Bloke pissing himself he has this gig, lowest pressure job in the league and gives him a few extra quid for the bingo

possibly the only excuse he could think of.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
If we scored first it might have been different….thats what 50 years of experience gives you

Bloke pissing himself he has this gig, lowest pressure job in the league and gives him a few extra quid for the bingo


If we had of scored first we would of conceded two minutes later, yet another pathetic display in whats becoming an ever growing list of embarassments under this ownership, only at pools could we appoint someone who retired about 50 yeara ago and some unknowns. They have done ok since coming in but the minute we face anyone remotely good were conceding hatfuls. Beyond a joke this club now.

he really could not lose replacing sarll with the players he has. we were bound to improve which we have. scored 6 goals between the york game and yesterday but forget how to defend. next game the defence will be steady but we,ll never look like scoring. surely with his experiance there is a half way house situation he could find.


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