Come off it man - results went tits up before the end of August. Only 2 to take any cheer from - winning at Boston and the turn around against Sutton. The rest were garbage.

Anger was directed at Sarll while he was here, latterly including LL and Raj because of the amount of time they took to recognise what everyone else was seeing - that he had to go.

If they spend another month fannying around our season is as good as over. Mr. Burns saying "the worst thing we can do now is rush into things" beggars belief. They had at least a month while Sarll was floundering to think about what should come next.

For once i agree with you PTID. The general feelign over summer was positive. Sarll said some good things, seemed honest.

I like Parkes and those interviews are always bland but it is annoying how they all seem to accept being shite
We’ve been knocked out of the cup by part timers, nicked a draw against other part timers and it’s a ‘decent end to a tough week’….no it’s been a shameful and unacceptable week, from a club with 5 times the resources of the ones taking the piss out of us….worst ran club in the top 5 divisions, and these players need to pull their fucking fingers out as well now the half wit managing them is gone !

Claiming the debt is rising is based on what?
Companies House shows that the debt owed to the Parent Company has dropped from £1.3m the previous year to £1.1m this year?
Now when I went to school that works out as a reduction in the debt to Raj of £200k.
Read the room my arse, read the facts available.

Must be the only businessman in the world who owes himself money.
Good luck on that one.

The Sutton keeper certainly papered over the cracks.
Normal service resumed.
I'm fairly confident we can avoid relegation.
UTP

Are you kidding about businessmen owing themselves money, it's common practice in many businesses.
Good attempt at deflection away from the fact that the published accounts show that the debt to Raj has actually reduced, not increased as some are claiming.

Main deflection is in your head.
You Radgys Accountant.

Not at all just using facts to make an opinion rather than supposition or hysteria.
I'll welcome the day Raj leaves as much as the next person as long as it doesn't mean we've gone pop and are relegated as a result.
BTW are the Trust still working with representatives of the Consortium (or others) to be prepared to buy us out of Administration should that happen? I'd imagine that should be a real priority for them if the belief is that Administration is around the corner - pretty quiet around what their plans for disaster are aren't they?

What facts? You have not stated any. These are facts by the way if you need help differentiating then from opinion or guesswork.

We are in big debt.
We seem not to have a long term plan
We go through a silly amount of managers
The club has a record of incompetence
Results on the pitch have been embarrassing for a while now
Raj has turned down a decent offer. I say decent because my source is HUST, fellow Pools fans whose angle on these matters is simply loving HUFC and whose professionalism puts HUFC to shame.

Think your deflector shields are on their last legs.

he has a point though. our debt is nothing when compared to most league clubs. its a case of the size of the clubs and their revenue whether ours is sustainable or not. i,d guess these smaller clubs in our league will also be in debt but its the amount and how they can stay where they are or move forward with it. think the list of clubs who are totally debt free will be a very small one.

It's turning into a carbon copy of last season.
So when we get Bombed out the tin pot trophy and nobody wants to sign our Made up Superstars.

The dummy will be back out in February again.
This time it will probably stay out.

I repeat under no circumstances are our fans to blame for this situation.

you mean like other clubs who sack a manager and bring in a replacement the week after. its not exactly a shock when he did get the boot as i came on here every morning expecting to hear of the news he has gone.

there is a big difference in this season to the last. we had our best two players out for the season with other ones we relied on getting crocked as well. bit different this term with a keeper many do not rate out and madine and hunter who are hardly missed. if we do get bombed out of the trophy, a competition most fans are not interested in anyway, it will only be used to knock the club by some who had so much interest in it they never attended the game or wanted to do so in the first place.

A big difference? And yet due to the same old incompetence that we've had to put up with for years, things are no bloody different.

Has the debt reduced because Raj took 200000k out for himself?

Mysterious 'management fees'

The debt to Raj has reduced by £200k from the last set of accounts that's a fact as stated above.
Non facts "we seem not to have a long term plan" - this is pure speculation, what facts are there to back it up? Raj isn't obliged to share anything with us, it would be nice if he did though.
"Raj has turned down a decent offer" - again based on speculation because none of us know what he's asking or what he was offered, regardless of having a mate on HUST. And of course HUST will give a balanced opinion anyway.
What's wrong with Raj reducing the debt that the club owes him by taking money out of the club btw? How else will the debt be repaid.

nothing wrong in theory but it isn,t a good look or something thats going to push the club forward.

1st point you're not wrong with but the accounts are only made up until July 2023. So before a season in the national league where we are likely to lose a lot more due to a significant drop in central funding, despite parachute payments. The accounts also show he charged us £180,000 in management fees, which is on top of the money taken out to reduce debt. Accounts also show we are in debt to Sports England to the tune of £1.2 million which is another thing for any potential owner to take into account.
I've commented on the HUST statement before so no need to go back over it.
I think the point is that people would rather the money in the club funded the club rather than being paid back to someone who seems intent on getting very penny back he's put in (and that's his prerogative). Clubs at this level usually exchange hands for £1 with heavily consolidated debt payments after, which Raj doesn't seem to want to do (again it's his club he can do what he wants).

Unfortunately he holds all the cards and he'll decide stick or twist, win or lose.
Strangely though, if he wants his money back we need success on the pitch otherwise it's never going to happen.

Agreed with both points. The only way he seems to think we can get on pitch success is adding additional funding in without some form of plan, this increases the debt and every year we don't go up we'll be in more and more. You'd think at some point he would think of passing the club on to somebody else for a decent fee? Say £600,000 to a consortium of Pools fans...

Thanks for that. Good stuff.

It's interesting that people use the prerogative argument as a moral defence. I'm not saying Raj is like these people, but consider the blokes that were at Bury, Southend, Blackpool etc... they were doing things that were within their prerogative but we all know what kind of people it makes them.

think the majority of fans would like a change of ownership and not just them who see him as the reason where we are. instead of mentioning the bad ones who are history or any bad ones still around it would be far better looking at clubs with decent ownership even the ones who are not buying success for as long as they are around. a bit of stability at the top where the fans who come can make the real difference between us and a well run club with far less than half the gates we get.

And now Jeff Stello joining in with Parkes about how quality our squad is.
The league table tells it how it is.
Our so called stars are megarly Overated.

Best way for them to prove me wrong is to Fucken shape up rapidly because talk is cheap as chips.

he might have a point though. only time will tell with a change of manager whether they are right or the players are overated. even in defeats its not as if many opponents stand out where we think we wish we had him. its just they seem to have some plan and stick to it where at times we look if our lads are strangers.

Think a lot of fans complained almost straight away. The football was turgid boring and to be honest we were bloody awful at Boston until the 2nd half, even then we tried to give them a draw. A few iffy results con fans very easily, if anyone went to pre season at Scarborough, then it was their for everyone to see something was a miss, we were utterly awful and got ripped to shreds all game. It was passed off as a meaningless friendly, which i guess it was, but it also highlighted how awful we were against a conference north team.

Im still waiting to see this team actually turn up, hopefully when we get soneone in they do.

personally i think Raj knows over the next few years he can tinker away and take out/back the money he is owed. Its not been the business plan or quick fix and sell he may have thought it be - but aslong as we stay where we are, make enough to pay him back. Eventually he either walks away with nothing lost (other than another town hating him). Or he keeps us where we are - plodding along and once the debts are paid hes in profit and just sits making 200k+ a year from us (which is dogshite in the grand scheme of things). Dont think he is in the position to loose the cash and certainly i dont think he wants to wind us up.

Singh is a small time businessman in real terms, if he was losing money he would walk away.

Theory’s, theory’s and even more theory’s.
But it’s all down to one man.
Speculate … but we’re all just prisoners of his decisions.
Something will turn up eventually, but I’m not gonna waste my time fretting over what I can’t change…even though I’d like to….

Interesting theory but it involves investment and sensible decision making. Investment-wise, on the pitch... unknown, off the pitch... lacking. Sensible decisions?

I don't think Singh sets out for his plans to be shit but they usually turn out that way.

Good thing about you our Kev you do indeed wear your heart on your sleeve and say it exactly as it is mate.

Interesting point of view Imp. You could be spot on with your assessment.

Thing is I don't make reality.
I just report on it.
Unfortunately we in a rut and getting out of it doesn't look to close.

Honestly thought when Sarly went the players all of them would of ripped there bollocks off and give 100% effort in these last 2 games to reward the fans loyalty and impress a future gaffer.

Just not seeing these statements of.
We quality and should / will still make the play offs.

Early days Ish. But time n experience Dosent guarantee a turnaround.

Won't go up or down but will lose a shit load of fans in the process.

Yes I get it but let's just hope a new manager will get this lot firing otherwise it's not just this season foooked but possibly our future.

The knock on affect to failure this season Dosent bare thinking about.
Nailed on the team will be a lot worse.

That's why the majority on here realise its a last chance saloon regarding a return to the Efl.

Parachute payments gone.
Etc £22 entrance fee etc.

Yes our Kev things are not great but we live in hope because that's all we have left

Time for the players to start talking with their feet for sure.
And Madines head when he's back in 4 weeks.

If we don't go up this season...which we won't...we'll be stuck in this division or below for a long long time...cheers Raj.
Top Man, Top Business Man, Top Cornet player...but knows fuck all about running a Football Club

Top cornet player I wouldn't trust him on 3rd Cornet. 2nd Baritone though..... perhaps.